Wow. Herm has resorted to lambasting the fans. Nice. Criticizing the fans is usually one of the last acts of a desperate man, shortly before they are fired. As usual, Gretz, Rufasssssss, and everyone else are circling the wagons YET AGAIN, so put your waders on, the BS is starting to get pretty deep.
Titans 26, Chiefs 17
Random thoughts on the Titans game:
Eddie Drummond, three returns, three mistakes. Good thing the great talent evaluator/developer/motivator Herm Edwards put Mr. Drummond back in after benching him several games ago. All the Herm Supporters are so right in wanting to give him another year.
Oh sure, now that the season is over, Herm starts going for it on 4th down in consecutive weeks instead of trying for a field goal or punting. Another subtle admission that Herm’s philosophy DOES NOT WORK. Early in the season, Herm ran things the way he wanted, and lead the league in 3 & outs. Now that the season is over, and Herm is feeling the heat, he’s starting to PLAY TO WIN THE GAME, and that includes going for it on 4th down.
In 1985, Stephone Paige averaged 22 yards PER CATCH, have the 2007 Chiefs even COMPLETED any 22 yard passes?
Samie Parker had a great spin move on his touchdown. Maybe Samie is like Damon Huard, he plays better when he is not the featured guy. I haven’t seen too many catches by Parker, but when I have, they seem to be pretty good.
If this team is not talented enough, then that is on the coach and the General Manager. If the team is talented enough, but they are not “making plays” or “executing” properly, then that also is on the head coach. No matter how you slice it, this mess falls 100% on Herm and Carl.
Brodie Croyle
Brodie could be a great quarterback, but, listen carefully Herm Supporters, do you really want an offensively challenged head coach and a second year offensive coordinator who continually play for field goals and punts to be the ones who help mold the quarterback? We could end up with another Todd Blackledge and an organization set back another five years.
The Chiefs need someone who knows what he is doing, and actually likes offense, to train Brodie.
Bryant Gumbel
At 12:11 in the 4th quarter of the Bengals/49ers classic on Saturday, ace play-by-play man Bryant Gumbel offered up this gem.
BRYANT GUMBEL: “And the Bengals go to the hurry up.”
The camera immediately cuts to the Bengals offense, STANDING IN A HUDDLE, taking their time. Hilarious.
Vermeil vs. Herm - Who’s fault is it really?
A lot of people like to blame Dick Vermeil for Herm’s shortcomings, saying Vermeil left the cupboard bare. I’m sorry, I didn’t know it was the responsibility of the outgoing coach to make sure the new guy has a good team. Especially when the new guy is supposed to be such a talent/motivator/genius.
I had the greatest column ever written in the history of mankind about this subject, but fellow columnist VermeilLikesToCry beat me to it, so the greatest column ever written goes in the trash. DAMN!
The more detailed dissection of Vermeil/Herm that can be found here:
http://www.chiefswarpath.com/cgi-bin/commentary/viewnews.cgi?category=1&id=1197643016
Gunther
I just read one of the stupidest things, that some people actually want Gunther fired because of the breakdown of the defense. Wasn’t Herm responsible for the defense? He sure gets the credit when they play well.
Hey Herm fans, PICK A SIDE OF THE FENCE PLEASE!
When people defend Herm, they point to two things:
1) Herm is great at developing talent.
- Well, Herm himself has said that he’s doing the best he can with what he has, implying the team is not talented enough. Herm himself is contradicting you.
2) Herm is a great defensive coach.
- Herm has been given all the credit for the improved defense, yet because they have fallen off, now it’s Gunther’s fault. WTF?
The defense carried this team for most of the year, and it was predictable they would get tired of carrying the load, especially when they could see their head coach was a moron.
Food for thought: Gunther was 4-0 vs. Denver when he was a head coach, Herm is 1-3.
Worst Losses in Chiefs History
It was posted on the message boards that Herm now has two of the six worst Chiefs losses of all time. Well I just had to research it, and of course, it is correct.
Paul Wiggins is now no longer the only Chiefs coach with multiple 34+ point losses. The following are the worst non-strike, regular season losses by the Chiefs.
1976. 45-0 vs. Pittsburgh. Paul Wiggins.
1984. 45-0 at Seattle. John Mackovic.
2006. 45-7 at Pittsburgh. HERM EDWARDS.
1977. 44-7 at Cleveland. Paul Wiggins.
1994. 44-10 at Buffalo. Marty Schottenhiemer.
2007. 41-7 at Denver. HERM EDWARDS.
Keep lobbying to retain Edwards as a coach, and next year we will be adding to this list.
Bob Gretz
Bob Gretz posted yet another Herm Good/Fans Stupid rambling (12/12/07).
GRETZ: “One of the things that makes Herm Edwards a good football coach is his willingness to speak the truth.”
JD: BWAHA AHA HA HA AH AHA HA HA HA! Herm can’t even speak the truth in consecutive sentences.
GRETZ: “Look at those numbers carefully. They reveal that in this decade alone, 24 of the 32 teams or 75 percent of the league won fewer than six games at least once in the 2000s.”
JD: And how many teams have won Super Bowls? Success is measured in Super Bowls, not how long it’s been since your last 4-12 season.
GRETZ: “The only two places where it hasn’t happened is Pittsburgh and Kansas City, both going back to the 1988 season.”
JD: You just said eight teams haven’t had that happen, now you’re saying it’s only two? And you’re vouching for Herm’s honesty? That’s like OJ coming to Drew Peterson’s defense.
GRETZ: “Now, it looks like the Chiefs are going to join the crowd.”
JD: When was the last time Herm went 4-12? Three years ago? I think it was. KC has gone 17 years without a four win season and Herm has gone two, add the two together and which legacy gets trampled on?
GRETZ: “You may not like what Herm Edwards says. But it’s the truth.”
JD: As I said last week, honest people do not need to continually tell everyone how truthful they are.
Ruffasssssssssssssssssssssss
RUFFASS: “The demise of the once-great Chiefs offense appears to have caught the populace off guard…”
JD: No, it was evident in game one vs. the Bengals in 2006.
RUFFUSSSS: “…but the signs were there last year and the playoff game in Indianapolis signaled the end of the Vermeil era for once and for all.”
JD: No, Vermeil quitting signaled the end of the Vermeil era. Ruffy says this like it’s Vermeil’s fault KC lost to the Colts.
RUFFASS: “While you and many others look for Edwards to open it up, as they say, they fail to see the consequences of such strategy especially for a team with very few offensive weapons.”
JD: And why don’t they have offensive weapons? Isn’t that Carl and Ace Talent Scout Herm Edwards’ job? Are Tony Gonzalez, Dewayne Bowe and Larry Johnson NOT considered offensive weapons? Someone better tell New England the consequences of an open-it-up offensive strategy.
RUFFuSSSSES: “If Detroit had run the ball (vs. Dallas) it would have likely taken the clock down to somewhere in the vicinity of eight minutes and then even if it had to kick the field goal and made it, it would have produced a two-score lead and seriously limited a Dallas comeback attempt.”
JD: While that statement is correct, you’re forgetting the “open-it-up” offense produced 27 points, which got them to the point where they should’ve run out the clock. When was the last time KC scored 27 points?
EDWARDS: “Whoa, that’s a lot of points.”
JD: Yes it is Herm. For you.
CALL: My wife and I are long time Chiefs fans that grew up in rural Missouri south of K.C. and moved to Ohio for job relocation, but our loyalty to the Chiefs [has] not changed. However, I think many others’ loyalty has changed this year and not in a good way. I have read and listened to more supposed fans’ negative comments and ideas than I care to. These people are talking about boycotting Arrowhead among other things to send a message…that they want justice which is of course to fire Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards.
I thought the definition of Fan (fanatic) is excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea? Winston Churchill wrote “a fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.”
JD: That’s quite a lengthy phone message there. How many supposed Chiefs “fans” quote Winston Churchill? The only person connected with the Chiefs (fan or employee) that I know of that would quote Churchill would be you, supposed Mr. Dawes.
CALL: “I thought the definition of Fan (fanatic) is excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea? Winston Churchill wrote “a fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.”
JD: This statement was so stupid I needed to hit it twice. You are right on the definition of a fan. We have enthusiasm, intense devotion, and we DON’T change our mind or the subject. The fallacy in the caller’s statement is what we don’t change our mind on. We want a WINNER. Period. And Herm is a liar and a loser.
CALL: “…We all wanted change for the team by adding youth to the roster and to gear to the future. Isn’t that exactly what we’re getting?
JD: We all wanted youth to the roster? Says who? Supposed Chiefs fans want to win the Super Bowl, and I don’t care how old the players are if they get that done.
CALL: “I believe everyone needs to grow up and realize that this is the NFL and everything works in cycles…. We as Chiefs fans do not let the weather dictate our loyalty, so I thought.”
JD: Yes, the NFL does work in cycles. How come the Chiefs haven’t caught on to that cycle? The Chiefs are only a handful of teams that are not cycling.
CALL: “If firing people worked then the Chargers would be 12-0.”
JD: So Miami should keep Cam Cameron then? Firing Dick Jauron for Lovie Smith got the Bears to the Super Bowl. Firing Jim Mora for Tony Dungy helped Indy win a Super Bowl. Firing Tony Dungy for John Gruden helped Tampa Bay win a Super Bowl. Dallas sure looks better this year with a new coach. By your line of thinking, the Jets should’ve never fired Rich Kotite.
Hermisms
Q: Larry Johnson did some little stuff last week and you said maybe then he’d play, but he’s not ready again right?
EDWARDS: “No, I don’t think so. He’s getting better obviously, but he’s not where you feel he can go in a game and play. But he’s getting better every week and maybe this next week.”
JD: Uh, how is it obvious? You have yet to tell us what is wrong. I thought you were honest and tell the truth?
EDWARDS: “Effort wasn’t the problem (vs. Denver). It was not doing your job correctly.”
JD: Uh, isn’t it the coaches job to get the players to play correctly?
Q: Is it just coincidence that since Larry Johnson went down you guys haven’t won a game?
EDWARDS: “I think it’s coincidence. I think Larry is a good player and you always want good players. The more good players you have the better coach you are. No doubt about that.”
JD: Classic Edwards. Agrees/disagrees with the statement, then completely contradicts himself in the very next sentence.
EDWARDS: “We just haven’t made the plays in games. This last game was probably the most disappointing game for me of the season thus far. I don’t think any player felt going into this game we were going to play like that. We prepared like we always do.”
JD: Well, since you’ve lost six in a row, nine overall, maybe the way you prepare isn’t working, is it?
EDWARDS: “We prepared like we always do. I thought we were well prepared; the players were well prepared to play.”
JD: Here goes Herm the Liar again. Have you ever noticed when he’s lying, he tends to repeat his point three times in consecutive sentences? Last week it was “the truth”, this week it’s “prepared.”
EDWARDS: “In our society you always want to point the finger at somebody, you want to blame somebody.”
JD: You’re no different. Every week you say the team was “prepared”, they just didn’t execute. You continually blame the players.
EDWARDS: “Blame me. OK. If you want to blame somebody blame the head coach. It’s on me. I’m the coach so it’s on me. So you don’t have to blame any more players…”
JD: Does that go for you too?
Edwards: “…or have to blame people in the organization. You can blame the head coach. That’s where it starts and that’s where it ends. I’m OK with that. I’m a big boy. I’ve been in the league a long time and I know how it works. So, if you want to blame somebody blame the head coach.”
JD: Saying “if you want” to blame someone, blame me, is like saying “I’m sorry if YOU’RE offended”, which is the non-apology apology. Herm isn’t really taking responsibility here.
Q: Did you see it coming?
EDWARDS: “No. Did not, did not see it coming. But it’s come; it’s arrived and it’s knocking on the door.”
JD: This I actually believe. Unfortunately, myself and several THOUSAND others did see it coming.
EDWARDS: “We’ll prepare. I’ve lived in this building the last couple of weeks. I’m not going home early. Coaches aren’t going home early. I’ve stayed here three days a week…”
JD: Gee, maybe you should go home, because this obviously isn’t working.
EDWARDS: “…so if people think that we’re not preparing the players they’re ridiculous. We’re preparing them. They’ve got to go play. Players have to play and coaches have to coach.”
JD: Didn’t you just say there’s no need to blame the players? And now you’re back to blaming them again. Nice.
Q: With all due respect, I’m not so sure who can coach this team and win a whole bunch of games. It’ a combination. It just can’t be blame the head coach.
JD: Did Bob Gretz or Ruffaassssss ask this stupid question? And why did they say “With all due respect”? You generally due that when you are insulting someone, this was a softball question.
EDWARDS: “What we’re worrying about now is we’re trying to figure out who to blame. There’s no blame.”
JD: Didn’t you JUST SAY, “Blame me”? You just F’N said it!!!
EDWARDS: “Teams go through this. Coach Vermeil was here his first year and he was 6-10. It hasn’t knocked on the door since then.”
JD: Vermeil hasn’t coached this team for TWO YEARS, do you think you can go one press conference without taking a shot at your former coach, you ungrateful douchebag. Vermeil’s 6-10 team started winning at the end of the year and showed improvement, you are doing the opposite.
EDWARDS: “This team that’s coming in here now, this Tennessee Titans team? They went to the Super Bowl and you know what they did after that? They went about five-and-whatever and four-and-12 and last year they went 8-8. It happened to them…”
JD: Actually I do know what the Titans did after they went to the Super Bowl, they won 13 games. It took five years AFTER the Super Bowl for the Titans to lose 10 games. Way to get your facts straight. Again.
Titans record
1999. 13-3 Super Bowl
2000. 13-3
2001. 7-9
2002. 11-5
2003. 12-4
2004. 5-11
2005. 4-12
2006. 8-8
JD: Since Herm did mention the five win season, the Titans followed that up with a four win season. It took two years to recover from that, and they still don’t look that good. Pay attention Herm supporters.
EDWARDS: “..it happened to Green Bay. It’s happened to a bunch of teams we play.”
JD: You really shouldn’t be comparing yourself to Green Bay, as they have had only one losing season in nine years. Can you say that Herm?
1999. 9-7
2000. 9-7
2001. 12-4
2002. 12-4
2003. 10-6
2004. 10-6
2005. 4-12
2006. 8-8
2007. 11-2
EDWARDS: “People aren’t used to this in Kansas City. Get over it.”
JD: Get over it? How about FU. You’re right, we aren’t used to it. There was a winning tradition in KC and you nuked it.
EDWARDS: “It happens. It’s called life. You can’t think you’re too big that it’s not going to happen to you. It happens to everybody.”
JD: It doesn’t happen to Green Bay, or New England, or Denver, or Dallas, or Pittsburgh.
EDWARDS: “Now the good thing about it is we’ve got a plan to fix it.”
JD: But it was your plan that broke it. Your stupid “plan” has set new records for losing in Kansas City, which is actually a big accomplishment.
EDWARDS: “And, you can’t fix it until it’s done.”
JD: No, we can’t fix it till YOU’RE done.
EDWARDS: “But now it’s bad and when it’s bad everybody has an idea of what went wrong. It doesn’t matter what went wrong. Just fix it.”
JD: Uh, how can you fix it if you don’t know what went wrong? You only say it doesn’t matter because you are the one who made it go wrong.
EDWARDS: “We have a way to fix it.”
JD: And how is that? Does the defense have to just play better? Do the players have to just make plays? Do we have to give credit to the opposing team? Apparently the only way you can win is to hold the opposition to three points or less.
EDWARDS: “Now, this is when you do your best coaching, in my opinion. Any coach will tell you that.”
JD: Like Bobby Petrino? Or Cam Cameron? Or Brian Billick?
