[Kansas City.com] J ared Allen and the Chiefs agreed to part ways this week, but that might be all they agreed on.
Allen’s agent, Ken Harris, and Chiefs president Carl Peterson told conflicting versions Wednesday of how and why negotiations broke down to keep the All-Pro defensive end in Kansas City.
Peterson said the sides discussed a potential multi-year contract but that Harris “wasn’t interested in any offers.” Harris told The Star late Wednesday he has the airline miles to prove otherwise.
“We were the ones chasing. We were the only ones to make a formal proposal,” Harris said. “Last year, Jared had me running around the country, to the Super Bowl and the Senior Bowl and the combine and those sorts of things, making proposals to the Chiefs. We didn’t ever really feel like it was going to end up with a contract agreement.”
Allen said in late December he had heard nothing from the Chiefs about a new contract. Harris said Wednesday that as early as last year’s NFL scouting combine, in February, Allen began to believe he wouldn’t remain in Kansas City after his contract with the Chiefs expired.
“It was no secret that me and management had clashes over contract extensions,” Allen said Wednesday.
But Peterson downplayed talk that he and Allen had a tense relationship or any kind of clash. Peterson said he and Chiefs vice president Denny Thum met with Allen but that there were no negotiations.
“There was nothing at that particular time that was on the table. Sometimes, it takes a little time for those things to happen,” Peterson said. “It was still our plan to work on a multi-year contract for Jared.”
Harris said that during one of the discussions, the sides informally agreed that they seemed too far apart on an agreement and that it might be time for Allen to move on.
“There didn’t seem to be a big push on anybody’s side to do anything different,” Harris said.
Harris said when Allen heard about the Vikings’ contract offer, his reaction was more relief than anything else. Harris said it was far different from Allen’s experience with the Chiefs.
“No matter what we tried, it just didn’t seem like it was going anywhere,” Harris said. “Given the history of how this has gone, I don’t think Jared or I thought that was in the cards.”
I believe Harris, I think King Carl is a snake!!!
Comment by Dave S — April 24, 2008 @ 8:28 am
“Carl Peterson, ruining fans Chiefs jersey’s, since ‘89″
In my opinion as a die hard fan I cant bring myself to buy a chiefs jersey, not knowing whether that player will be there that next year or not. We need to call for Carl Peterson’s resignation. Almost 20 years of mediocracy.
Comment by Jonas Vashey — April 24, 2008 @ 8:46 am
If you read all the quotes, there doesn’t really seem to be a disagreement. Allen’s side was bitter for not getting an offer last year so stopped trying. Peterson didn’t push for an offer b/c we had him franchised and his value might go down after another year. Simply comes down to stubborness on both sides.
Comment by VLTC — April 24, 2008 @ 8:50 am
It was supposed to come down to timing. The Chiefs were going to give him a multi-year contract. But instead of waiting for the front office to do there plan, Jarad Allen got excited when he heard the Vikings were going to give him big $$$ he was done in Kansas City.
Comment by Kyle — April 24, 2008 @ 9:33 am
Yet another disgruntled employee at the hands of Carl Peterson. Carl Peterson is what is wrong with the KC Chiefs. Jared Allen is a player that defences are built around. But hey, lets go ahead try to rebuild like what, the last 8 years. Makes sense to me. I wonder how we will fare when the NFL salary cap gets lifted.
Comment by Nick — April 24, 2008 @ 9:50 am
Jarad got his once in a lifetime opportunity he fits the Vikings and their style. I will still watch Jarad, but am not the slightest bit upset. Had it been Tony G. I would have sold my season tickets. The current works great for everyone especially if we have more than a snow ball’s chance in hell at getting Chris Long.
Comment by Jake — April 24, 2008 @ 9:53 am
But Chris Long is not better than Jared, If we draft a DE in the 5 spot somebody needs to be fired!
Comment by Dave S — April 24, 2008 @ 10:57 am
I am a Chiefs fan, not a Jared Allen fan anymore because he is not a Chief, he is an enemy now. I dont understand how some people say they will watch Jared or care about what he does. This story does not matter anymore. Move on. I do think that the Chiefs will continue to fail with the current regime leading them. We need an owner who knows how to run an NFL franchise, period. I have no confidence in the current owner.
Comment by Glen — April 24, 2008 @ 11:25 am
Actually I will watch Jarad because he is fun to watch and the quality he will be playing with will make him even more fun to watch. If we don’t get Chris Long if available we are killing our selves and risking too much for too little. The only players worthy of top five are Long, Long, Mcfadden, Dorsey. Yeah thats right only four. Ellis is top 10 and Ryan is Top 10 The only play that could fit our system is Dorsey and Chris Long obviously Jake Long but no hope now. Dorsey for sure will be gone but if Chris Long is available he is the best player on the board it just makes it sweeter because we need him. Gholston does not fit our scheme and would rather get Mcfadden over him even though I don’t think he is the next Peterson. Mcfadden’s ethics are not even near that of Adrian Peterson.
Comment by Jake — April 24, 2008 @ 11:58 am
One step forward, two steps backwards. Seems a little ridiculous that we trade a DE to draft a DE. I can understand that we need more picks but seriously this is getting out of hand. Why not pay someone who is proven instead of paying nearly as much to someone who is not.
Comment by Bryan — April 24, 2008 @ 2:12 pm
^exactly
Comment by Jones — April 24, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
If we draft DE at #5, Peterson and Herm should be fired immediately (well they should be anyway, but that’s another story). If we draft a DE at #5 it means we’ve downgraded at DE and effectively dropped from #5 to #17 in the draft, all for 2 lousy 3rd round picks. What a bunch of clowns these are!
As for those defending this move b/c of money:
(1) We are in no trouble of touching the cap any time soon
(2) We’d be paying the #5 DE almost as much as Jared anyway (last years #5 got 10.4 million a year!). Assuming the #5 pick gets the same money as last year, that’s only a 1.66 million savings a year over Jared’s recently signed contract.
So if you look at a draft value chart, we’ve lost 750 points by going from #5->17 and only gained ~400 back from the 2 3rd round picks. That’s a ~350 point loss in draft value, equivalent to a late 2nd rounder!!! At the same time, we get worse at DE (e.g. Long instead of Allen).
So in effect, we’ve traded Jared Allen and a 2nd round pick for Chris Long and $1.66 million a year. What a bunch of fools.
Comment by VLTC — April 24, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
can someone tell me why when there were so many good o-linemen available in the off season and that being our primary need, King Carl didn’t address the problem. Apparently Herm “21 points is a lot of points” Edwards is going to try and shut everyone out. Good start getting rid of your best defensive player Carl. We will NEVER WIN as long as these two morons are calling the shots. C. Hunt had better wake up and smell the coffee or maybe we as Chief fans should just stay home and let an empty Arrowhead make our statement for us.
Comment by fenwick — April 24, 2008 @ 5:22 pm
Everyone I have to say that today I am embarassed to be a chiefs fan. I say that not because of trading jarred but because half of the reason I am a chiefs fan is that we are supposed to be REAL FANS! I grew up in suburban D.C. and got to listen to all the f-ing redskins fans piss and moan when stuff did’nt go their way. I don’t agree with all the moves herm and carl make but I would like to point out that finally herm is doing what he said he was gonna do all along, get younger. Supposedly Herm is a scout at heart so lets see how well he does picking in the draft and pass judgement on him from there. We have some awesome spots in this years draft, thats full of lineman and even corners, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Things are not gonna be totally fixed this year cause we will be extremely young but let me ask you, How good at your job were you when you started? How good do you think you are now? and how long did it take you to get there? think about it and stay patient………and by the way Arrowhead better be loud as shit this year…….THAT’S WHO WE ARE
Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — April 24, 2008 @ 6:48 pm
Both sides are to blame but Im gonna shift mine more towards Carl Peterson for NOT keeping him around. I’m bitter as hell but it’s time to move forward and hopefully these 3 draft picks will turn out to be 3 Jared Allen types in a sense of value to a team, only no DUI’s, lol.
Comment by Marques — April 24, 2008 @ 6:55 pm
I adopted the Chiefs as my team when Joe Montana got dumped for Steve Young. I was a kid when Joe started out with the 49ers. But I’ve been a die hard fan ever since. Being an out of state fan is AWESOME because you don’t get bombarded by every ounce of news and complaining and all that bs.
Anyway. I think we need Jake Long. He’ll be far better than Jared Allen and there will be no fear of him getting suspended for a season. Allen was great. He disrupted a team’s offense with forced fumbles and batted balls. He had a great sack celebration and played to the crowd. Jake Long will be better than Allen, just not as many antics. But unfortunately the FAIDERS are picking ahead of us and something tells me that Al Davis is going to have an alseimers moment and pick Long, thinking its Howie Long or the thought of Howie’s son playing for the Chiefs will make him sick and he’ll pick him. Either way, the Faiders are going to screw us because they are evil!!!
Comment by Chief J — April 24, 2008 @ 7:13 pm
I say take matt ryan and use the later picks to move up and try and get Clady or settle for Otah(sp?) And we have a good QB and start rebuilding the line. We can take a DE somewhere 2-4 if we need to but i see that as beeing the better fix to getting this TERRIBLE offence changed around.
If that doesn’t work we can always get a trade our pick to somoene who thinks Ryan will go to the Jets. we ARE right in front of them so we could trade out of 5 and get Aqib Talib (A home crowd favorite already!) and Otah or some middle of the 1st OT.
Either of these i see playing out to be better than a DE with the 5th overall. Especially since it would show Turk or Tank (whichever is the DE) that we really weren’t thinking he could ever start for us.
Comment by FatDaNn — April 24, 2008 @ 7:55 pm
fenwick - That was addressed on the kcchiefs website. Carl admited it was his fault he held herm back from signing anyone b/c he thought the players we had would be able to hold on another year and didn’t do ANYTHING about it. No plan for the future, just make it through that season…..with 4 wins….
Which the game i went to, THANK GOD, was the one in SD….Front Row!
Comment by FatDaNn — April 24, 2008 @ 8:00 pm
Chief J are you my long lost brother? I was raised a Seahawks fan (dads from seattle) but switched when I was 12 cuz my favorite player Joe became a Chief…..kinda funny.
Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — April 24, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
I think we have to draft a DE at #5 because we now have a hole there and there is no LT worthy of a #5 pick. Get the best LT at the 17th pick. It sounds crazy but that is the situation they put themselves in. VLTC, I agree that we have effectively downgraded the 5th pick to a 17th pick, but we have to fill that DE spot with the best we can. Carl screwed up. I wonder what Gun thought about the trade.
All these draft picks are going to want to get paid in 3 years, what do we do then? Rebuild through the draft again? I doubt if NE was the youngest team in the league last year.
Comment by Jeff R. — April 24, 2008 @ 9:20 pm
#5 Pick - Brandon Albert
#17 Aqib Talib
wtf did we draft Turk for last year? To sit on his ass? No McBride will take Allen’s slot and Albert and Talib will be our first two picks. If not…then…well….yeah…whatever.
Comment by Brandon — April 24, 2008 @ 9:21 pm
I tend to side with Harris in this battle of water under the bridge! But point the finger at Peterson! He was also the one that could’nt get along with John Tait and ultimately decided he was’nt worth the money! Boy, could we use him now! Carl please step down! For the benefit of mankind!
Comment by goldzone44 — April 25, 2008 @ 12:15 am
Ok Jared Allen is now a enemy of the kansasa city chiefs we now know that but I myself have also been a chiefs fan since I was a kid now if Tony G. was traded then I would have to say f- the chiefs because Tony G. Is one of the best players thier is when joe Montana was a chief that was the best and i say we take matt ryan as QB and try to get some DEFENCE HERM AND SOME OFENCE CARL PETERSON and let use see how we look in the 2009 season for the next year and maybe make the PLAYOFFS AND MAKE IT TO A SUPERBOWL BEFORE I GET OLD HERE HERM AND CARL BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTDONE ANY THING FOR ALONG TIMEIMEAN COME ON HERE WE NEED TO MAKE IT TO WHERE OTHER FOOTBALL FANS WILL QUIT CALLING THE CHIEFS THE KANSAS CITY CHOKES LIKE EVERYONE KNOWS THE CHOKELAND FADERS WILL KEEP THE DRAFT A LONG ONE LETS ALL HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY DON’T TAKE MATT RYAN FROM OUR PICK OR THE FALCONS AT THAT MATTER………..
Comment by Michael Diedrich — April 25, 2008 @ 1:18 am
WGAF!
Comment by Ike — April 25, 2008 @ 6:44 am
Get Matt Ryan- Mr. “Pringles in a can” Croyle needs some competition. If we truely are in a “Rebuilding” then we need to start with a Quarterback and build around the QB. If we don’t get a QB then we are letting Croyle play in the hands of un-proven. What if he does not cut it? Then the Chiefs are screwed and we as fans are stuck with lower expectations. I read all the comments and it seems some people are sold on Croyle-Not me. I want competition in there with another Rookie. Then build from what the Quarterback is good at-Hence Ryan is a West Coast Croyle- Who knows.
Ryan first round if not then we let another Marino, Elway, Manning (Payton) go. I know its hard to compare to these QB’s but thats what I see with Matt
Comment by Dave — April 25, 2008 @ 7:00 am
NCCHIEFSFAN, We could be brothers. I grew up Bengle fan because of my Dad and then Montana beat them in the superbowl and I jumped ship as a kid to 49ers, but more of a Montana fan. Nice being a kid, you can jump ship when your team sucks. But as an adult, I take pride in being a Chiefs fan and will ride this Titanic all the way to the bottom, but lets hope that doesn’t happen.
I like Ryan too, but I think the young QBs never make it unless they have a line that can protect them. A team with a great o line can manage with an average QB. Croyle could still be good. We have to give him a year or 2. At least he can scramble. If Green could have, he’d at least still be playing now. Good luck gentlemen. The grade on tomorrow’s draft won’t truly be known until next season. May DT be watching down on us.
Comment by Chief J — April 25, 2008 @ 9:16 pm
the bottom line is: AS LONG AS CARL AND HERM ARE HERE, WE WILL NOT WIN A SUPER BOWL. THEY HAVE TO GO AND THE HUNT FAMILY HAD BETTER REALIZE THAT SOONER THAN LATER. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD ABOUT CARL’S 5 YEAR PLAN WHICH IS IN IT’S 20TH YEAR NOW AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE. HERM TOOK THE JETS AND MADE THEM USELESS, TOOK ONE OF THE TOP OFFENSIVE TEAMS IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE AND IN TWO SHORT YEARS MADE THEM THE LAUGHING STOCK THAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR. YOU WON’T FIND A FAN THAT LOVES HIS CHIEFS MORE THAN I DO BUT FAN LOYALTY DESERVES SOME RETURN. MAYBE NCCHIEFSFAN CAN SIT BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR OF HERM AND CARL’S FUTILITY AND JUST BE HAPPY TO BE A CHIEFS FAN BUT I WANT MORE. I DESERVE MORE!!! I WON’T DRIVE 5 HOURS THIS YEAR THROUGH NASTY WEATHER TO PAY OUTRAGEOUS PARKING AND RAISED TICKET PRICES TO SEE MY BELOVED CHIEFS AND I THANK CARL’S UNWILLINGNESS AND HERM’S IGNORANCE FOR THAT.
Comment by fenwick — April 25, 2008 @ 11:52 pm
Carl Peterson has only had two coaches to bring success to the Chiefs, Marty and Herm. The only two coaches to give what real chiefs fans want, being defense. Dick was just a friend Gunther is one of the best coordinators and given talent he has proven he can get the job done. Herm started his job on a sunday afternoon in september of 2006 and his almost league leading passer trent green went down. We knew things were different without Roaf, but losing the face of a franchise in the opening game is rough. We have not gotten past it and Larry Johnson is not the new answer, but he can be a part of the solution. The whole solution and defense is the biggest part. Last year our defense helped our offense but the offense couldn’t help itself. One draft will not change everything but it WILL change a lot. Don’t give up yet chiefs fans! This is Croyle’s first and last year as a starter unless he lives up to potential starting day one. We are building and this year is a toss up depending on how well a young team can grow into a good team. We have our veteran’s but Tony G. has one or two really good years left in him and I think we owe it to a Hall of Famer the likes of which will never come around again. That is unless Long develops into the next coming DT with talent around him. Defense is where is starts and thats where we should go with our First round picks unless Long is not there and we get Clady. We are on for the ride and I’d like to go on sundays and see 80,000 of the best fans join me. If not, stay on your couches and call yourselves real fans. They don’t call it the loudest outdoor stadium for nothing It takes devoted fans to put that much heart into a defense. I bleed red…do you?
Comment by Jake — April 26, 2008 @ 2:10 am
I know this is sort of out of time and place. Watching the draft today. Looks like the chiefs did well in rounds 1 and 2 only to be mis mananged in the 2nd day. Where are the O linemen? If we are drafting a TE in the 3rd round why not Rucker from Missouri? He went in the fourth round after we picked Franklin. I agree that we need to rebuid this team and I think we are still missing 2 maybe 3 more key parts. Let me think hard and long on this. Ok no surprise here. No 1, a new GM No. 2, a new head coach, and if after 20 or so more years of unsuccessful playoff competition, No 3, a new owner. Hope Herm don’t fall in love with this rebuilding too much, or he will find himself gone in no less than two years.
Comment by JAY — April 27, 2008 @ 12:37 pm