I was going to wait until training camp to billboard my next set of attempted witticisms, but if I don’t write now I’m in danger of being pushed off the main Warpath page by some excellent columns from the Warpath staff.
The 2008 Draft
On paper, the Chiefs had a great draft, although I was hoping they’d pick up a head coach in the 3rd round. Oh well, maybe we can get one in free agency.
If you follow football long enough, you will see every kind of draft, off-season & pre-season, and I have. Unfortunately, the off-season color wheel has not produced a Super Bowl in my lifetime, so until the ’08 KC draftees start producing wins, I will have to contain my excitement. And you know, the Lions have “won” the draft a couple of times this last decade.
Will the great Carl Peterson continue the draft success by signing all our picks before training camp, or will they miss camp and get injured for the year in the third game? Or will he cuss at them and make them want out of KC the first chance they get like John Tait and Jared Allen? One great draft does not wipe the slate clean for Carl. It’s about time Carl is doing the job he’s supposed to be doing, but it won’t mean a thing if he can’t get them into camp on time.
From the KC Star before the draft:
Edwards said the Chiefs had no free-agent visitors Monday and no visits scheduled for later in the week. They have three vacancies on their starting offensive line, at least one at cornerback and one at wide receiver, and Edwards said the Chiefs would load up at all three positions in the draft.
“There are a lot of good offensive linemen in the draft,” he said. “We’ve got 10 picks and we’re evaluating the guys who would be a good fit in our system, and we’ll get some good offensive linemen.”
JD: The O-line of the Chiefs has been a HUGE Achilles Heel, yet only two were drafted. I would’ve liked to have seen another lineman drafted instead of a second tight end, but that’s just me.
Floyd Reese said this on ESPN Radio on draft day:
“Herm Edwards has been the coach for what, two, three years? And he’s just NOW figuring out he needs to rebuild?”
Wow. A shot at Herm from the national media, must be a mistake.
Jared Allen
Trading Jared Allen at this time was the right thing to do, and on paper, it looks like the Chiefs got a good deal, on paper. I know some people don’t like the phrase “It’s too early to tell”, but it is.
That being said, it should have never got to this point. Regardless of what Jared Allen did or said, whether JA was right or wrong, it doesn’t matter. The job of the GM is to sign your star players and keep them on the team, and Carl failed. The DUI’s don’t matter. They can write up a clause that covers the team if Jared screws up again.
At his end of the year press conference, Clark Hunt blamed Carl for a lot of the Chiefs current troubles (after blaming Vermeil, of course), yet he didn’t fire him. I believe JA would’ve stayed in Kansas City if we had a different GM, so once again, this ultimately falls on Clark. Again.
Jared Allen is the poster child for the team that Herm and Carl want to create this week. He’s a young draft pick that blossomed into a star. And now he’s gone. What’s going to happen when Dwayne Bowe’s contract comes up? Or Derrick Johnson’s? Or Glenn Dorsey’s? Only keeping a draft pick for three-four years is really no different than signing a veteran free agent for three-four years. The point of building a team through the draft is to have them together for a long time, but we can’t do that if our GM is unable to keep our good players.
Wait, I change my mind, this is all Vermeil’s fault. If he hadn’t drafted JA, then we wouldn’t be in this mess. No, wait a minute, that’s not right either. Dick Vermeil didn’t draft any good players, he only drafted the bad ones. I know there’s a way to blame this on DV, but it will take some thinking (I know, first time is always hard).
From the KC Star:
When (JOE POSNANSKI) asked one Chiefs official how the Chiefs possibly could get better without the NFL’s sack leader, he asked back: “How many of those sacks were in the fourth quarter?”
The correct answer to that is zero. When asked what this was supposed to mean – after all, the Chiefs were trailing an awful lot in the fourth quarter, and sack opportunities were rare – the official shrugged and said, “I’m just saying. Zero.”
JD: This is just a bitter, sour-grapes, stupid statement from “one Chiefs official”. There are a lot of reasons for zero 4th quarter sacks that cannot be covered by a generic blanket statement like that.
Bottom line, Jared Allen led the league with 15 sacks. NO ONE had more. NO ONE. Just a typical “You can’t quit, you’re fired!” kind of statement. Pathetic.
We don’t have to discredit every Chiefs player who leaves for another team, especially when the great Carl Peterson is just as much, if not more at fault.
Letters to the Know-It-All (that’s me)
Today’s letter of the month is from Gordan Ramsey and it was posted on my last article:
RAMSEY: “Since you are the self appointed know-it-all of building an NFL team, why don’t you put in an application to for the Chiefs head coaching job, or GM for that matter.”
JD: This is a typical argument for people who don’t want to debate facts. I don’t need to be a chef to tell when my Big Mac tastes like crap, I don’t need to be a director to know that “Charlie’s Angels” was a stupid movie, and I don’t need to be a head coach or general manager to know that 4-12 is a bad record and the “plan” that Herm and Carl are using HAS NOT WORKED. But, to answer your question, when the Chiefs head coaching job becomes available next year, I will submit an application. I’m fairly confident of getting a callback, since Herm has proven you don’t need experience to be a head coach.
RAMSEY: “You blame coach Edwards for many faults of this team but many of the ingredients were not his contribution.”
JD: Really? Which ones? Ultimately Herm is in charge, so ultimately it is his fault. If he feels Hermcuffed by Vermeil’s players, why doesn’t he get rid of all of them? Marty cut half of Ganz’s team before training camp. Why hasn’t Herm done that? Because he wouldn’t be able to blame Vermeil anymore.
RAMSEY: “Two years to take the oldest team in the league, with fading stars, and turn it into a winner by filling holes with more old veterans.”
JD: A good coach, like Marty or Vermeil, can do it in less than two years, and they did.
RAMSEY: “You have not expressed this as your view, but you seem to imply that this is how you would stir the pot because you attempt to debunk the other rebuilding theories.”
JD: That’s not what I implied at all. There are only three ways to acquire players (trade, free agency & draft), and Herm only wants to use one. Why would you not want to use all three? But that’s Herm using the mentality he did on the field for player acquisitions. There are only three basic ways to move the football (long pass, short pass & the run), and Herm only wanted to use two. That is just plain dumb.
What I would like to see is Herm doing WHATEVER it takes to win, as opposed to just doing ONLY one thing, like building through the draft. For him to say free agency isn’t a good way to go is just silly.
Second of all, we wouldn’t have had the need to rebuild if Herm hadn’t run the franchise into the ground like he did.
RAMSEY: “I would wager that a few years ago you were complaining that the Chiefs need a few more pricey veterans to fill holes that would take them to the next level.”
JD: Had we had one stud defender who could’ve forced two punts, Kansas City would have beaten Indy in the ’03 playoffs. But yes, you are right, signing pricey veterans NEVER helps a team get to the next level. Can you believe how stupid New England was by signing Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau, Corey Dillon and Randy Moss? They couldn’t even go 19-0 with all those old guys!
RAMSEY: “The days of a high scoring Chiefs offense went into retirement with Willie Roaf, so in the words of Mr. Edwards, “get over it.”
JD: Actually, those days went out with departure of Al Saunders. Will you have another witty commentary when the Chiefs lose yet another 13-10 game next year? Or when the vaunted Texan Steel Curtain holds KC to 3 points? Hate to break this to you, but you need to score more than 14 points a game to win. As for “get over it”, that comment can be more accurately applied to the fact that Dick Vermeil is no longer a Chiefs employee.
RAMSEY: “You will never get out of the pot or pan anything better than what went into it.”
JD: I agree, anytime Herm wants to put something into the pan, he’s free to try.
RAMSEY: “So get of your soapbox and stop blaming the coach for every shortcoming of this team.
JD: Everyone blames the President of the United States for all the country’s problems. Why? Because he is in charge. The guy in charge is the only one who can do something about it. Tony Gonzalez can’t draft players. Derrick Johnson doesn’t call plays. Donnie Edwards can’t sign old, washed-up vets like Junior Seau and Randy Moss.
RAMSEY: “There is plenty of blame to go around.”
JD: Really? And who do you blame, Dick Vermeil? Marty? Ganz? Levy? Stram? How about instead of blaming and excuses, why don’t we try fixing? Herm brings this all on himself. If he would just shut up and get it done already, there would be nothing to say. But he doesn’t.
Clark Hunt
HUNT: “We’re going to be very focused every year on the draft as the key tool that we build this team with. Certainly there will be an occasional year where we might sign a free agent who the public considers to be a marquee player. That’s how it will shake out. I don’t want to say we’re never going to sign a player that has name recognition, because that’s not true. But the focus will always be on the draft. We need to make sure we have the people and the process in place that allows us to be successful drafting every year. We’ve seen that if you go two or three years with poor drafts, that eventually will catch up to you. There’s nothing you can do in free agency to make up for that.”
JD: You mean drafting good young players like Jared Allen?
Peterson Takes a Shot at DV, Again
PETERSON: “Our previous head coaches didn’t want to do it in this fashion. They wanted to play veteran players and were reluctant to play young players. Herm has a different philosophy, and you always try to go with the philosophy of your head coach because at the end of the day, he’s the one who has to get the most out of them.”
JD: You mean playing younger players like Damon Huard? Or do you mean drafting a defensive player with the 1st pick in the ’03 draft?
Hermisms
EDWARDS: “We were in all of our games going into the 4th quarter, we just didn’t finish” (4/23/08 on ESPN Radio).
JD: Really? Herm, you do know that a lot of people besides you watched your games this year, don’t you? It was 41-7 & 17-3 at Denver and Houston in the 3rd quarter. FORTY-ONE TO SEVEN. Maybe Herm still thought we could’ve pulled it off against the Broncos I guess.
EDWARDS: “If we don’t get anybody else (free agents), that’s OK. What I don’t want to do is go out and get a guy, any guy, just so people think, ‘Well, they got somebody, so they must be doing a good job in free agency.’ No, that’s not what we’re going to do. If that guy can’t help us win and he doesn’t fit what we’re doing, we will not bring him in here. That would be a waste of our time and a waste of his time.”
JD: Good thing you didn’t bring in Eddie Drummond then.
EDWARDS: “I believe in the draft. Free agency is great, but for what we’re trying to do, we’ve got to draft our football team. To me, I’m more excited about the draft. We’re going to pick guys we feel can come in here and start. That’s not a bad thing for us. That’s a good thing for us. We’re trying to build for the long haul, and we’re trying to build with youth. We’re trying to keep this team together for a long time.”
JD: Good thing we’re set at defensive end, Oops! I also love how Herm has to define good AND bad for us. I would’ve never known that things that weren’t bad could also be good. But that’s not a bad thing, that’s a good thing.
EDWARDS: “(Williams has) played both spots on the outside, and Donnie’s played in the middle and on the outside. So we’re going to create competition, and the best three guys are going to play.”
JD: Wow, competition for a position to find the best player? What a great idea! I wonder what Trent Green thinks of that concept.
EDWARDS: “The other thing about it is that when the workout (with Matt Ryan) was done, they had a (public-relations) guy at the school, and he asked me to come in and speak to the press. I said OK, figuring there would be one or two guys there. It was like after a game there were so many guys there. The whole room was packed. So I sat down and did a press conference for about 25 minutes.”
JD: Actually Herm did two shows that night, with three more this weekend. Tickets still available.
“Play to Win the Game” unfortunately Herm does not have the balls to actually go out and play to win, he can only motivate the young guys on the team and has done an effective job of it. The problem is competition in the NFL has surpassed the Chiefs after 2003. You can be too old and slow or you can be two young and mistake ridden. Both are excuses for the players on the field. Others will blame on the injuries of the KC staples in this decade Trent Johnson and Priest(no can blame priest for anything besides not being a vocal leader). Looking at our team compared to the one of Herm’s first year we are not only different, but entirely better. The only piece missing is an established starting quarterback and his guardsmen. You can’t manage a football year by year. If you know a team that does this It must not be in the NFL or at least the AFC. Sometimes this policy will get you into trouble with fans who only watch the games, but those who understand are not as naive to say why this why that. There is always a reason. Why not drop $20 mil on free agents, uh maybe because you would have no chance at signing anymore than six draft picks. Talk about an F draft grade just to get some washed up 28-35 years olds. I would rather grow a player that has loyalty to only team and sets out to prote`t only one field at 1 Arrowhead Drive. I can’t defend Peterson, but Herm is an upper echelon coach. I understand it is some people’s jobs to criticize, but there are a lot more professional ways of doing so. I can’t guarantee a super bowl win in the next two years but I will profess that we should be able to defend Arrowhead with one of the stingiest defenses this side of 2000. My father has had season tickets the greater part of my life. I have been to 50+ games always sitting lower level just above where the players come out and the only greater feeling than when 80,000 scream “home of the CHIEFS” is when 80,000 of the greatest fans on this planet are giving their hearts into stopping the opposing offense on fourth down in the fourth quarter on our 40 trying one last time to take the lead. There is nothing more powerful in football. The only time as a fan that chills have run up my spine. Want to know who won that game in this decade? Ryan Sims don’t believe me look at the film. I hate when people criticize players for not doing anything for a team. In all honesty I don’t ever remember Jarad Allen winning a game for Kansas City. Page has won at least two of them against our greatest fo. In my book he deserves more money. Any true player will say stat don’t mean sh** when it’s all said and done. I’m sure Gonzo is proud of himself for breaking almost every tightend record, but what was his defining moment? One of his best games in my opinion was week 16 last year against the Lions not because he 150 yards, but because he dominated a game by being the best football player on the field. I can’t believe anyone is opposed to drafting both of these tightends Cottam and Merritt one is a blocker and the other has speed size and hands. Dunn and Gonzo were one of the best tandems in recent history. One thing people don’t remember is Dunn was drafted to be a receiving threat, but became a pro bowl caliber blocker. Gonzo of course being Gonzo. I would still take him over Gates any and every sunday. We will be better this year, I expect to at least be better at home, but if we aren’t we will better in 09. The reason is because of Herm’s policy. Clark is not ignorant and will not get rid of a Herm until the job is done. He was given five years and I hope the fans will give him that much too. The only thing we can do to actually improve the team is fill the stands of Arrowwhead. Not showing up proves nothing, but not deserving of the title “best fans in the NFL. If you won’t do it for Herm than do it for the late Lamar Hunt because that game I spoke of earlier was just after his soul was raised to heaven. I felt the power of the fans that day and haven’t felt it since.
Comment by Jake — May 17, 2008 @ 11:15 am
jd you crack me up…keep posting
Comment by jc — May 17, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
JD-
Another great article! Let’s just hope those myopic Herm and Carl supporters are paying attention! I have consistantly listed many reasons for a change in management and you certainly have as well, but the few who support losing keep coming up with excuses! For those folks who say they are “true Chiefs fans” but refuse to see that we need new management to turn things around is one of the great mysteries we have going right now! Stange indeed!!!!!!!!!
Comment by goldzone44 — May 19, 2008 @ 2:04 am
JD -
I think you’re an idiot. Not only do I disagree with your opinions, but I really dislike how you do it, taking someone’s email and repsonding to sections of it out of context. You’re a little twerp. If I wasn’t so lazy I would respond to your silly post in a similar fasion. As it is, I’ll just say this: Herm is not a great coach, Carl is not a great GM/President, and the Chiefs are not a good football team right now. However, they are on their way to being a good team. The best way for the Chiefs to get good again is a youth movement through the draft. New young, energetic, loyal players who are true Chiefs. Trust me, in 2 more drafts this team will have as much talent as any team in the league. Then there is no excuse for not winning. You’re dismissed, JD.
Comment by Jake — May 19, 2008 @ 8:00 am
JD
You’ve nailed this thing right on the head. And Jake, Did you call Herm an upper echlon coach?? How has he ever earned that distinction. He’s not done one thing to have that said about him. He try’s to align himself with Dungy and Lovie, but guess what, they are not loud mouth morons who rely on silly little quotes to be a head coach. They keep their mouth shut and coach. And do it well. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out this thin his headed straight into the shi@#er.
Comment by Dave S — May 19, 2008 @ 9:51 am
Jake,
Do You like having a rotten football team that will need at least two more drafts to be competitive???? We’ve been saying two more drafts for the entire King Carl regime!!! How can you be so dedicated to a couple of guys that suck in their jobs???? If you ran a business and were depending on turning a profit and or keeping your customers I’m sure you would be less patient. How can you and the other Herm and Carl supporters call yourself true fans?? You’re clearly happy with losing!!! And you say Herm and Carl are not good right now, but are building up to it?? Excuse me?? This is a results oriented league and year after year of sucking is not building up to anything but failure!! I’m glad you’re a Chiefs fan, but your comments make me wonder if some in our fan base will ever wake up and realize that in order to be Champions you have to do what’s required even though it is sometimes painful! Otherwise 8-8 or worse is the best we can hope for!! You must be in the Peterson or Edwards family tree!
Comment by goldzone44 — May 19, 2008 @ 6:52 pm
I am of no relation but when it comes to the best home record in the last 18 years and losing it because of Larry’s foot there are few people to blame but the play callers and those who are supposed to carryout those orders. Football is a battle and even if your leaders are unsatisfactory you still must set out and do your damn job. Our players in the last 4 years have not done that. And thats the reason we let them all go. Herm has stated in his actions if have not made the pro bowl or been eligible in any respect you are off the team. He give a player two chances and if they don’t work they are gone. All I have to say is wait see the young kids play. If anyone believes you can transform a team because of a few giant transactions your an idiot. The NFL is changing and so are the Chiefs. As college becomes more like the NFL in the level of play the best players to get are those that stand out and understand what it takes to win. All I have to say for those of you who don’t agree is show and support your new team like no other you have seen before. This is truly Herm’s team and you can expect him to take all the credit this year whether its another 4-12 repeat like 88-89 or its 13-3 like 2003. You can hate a man for poor choices but I hate you if you don’t forgive a man thats admits his mistakes. Carl admited his mistakes and is doing everything he can to save his ass. He brought Herm in and was given a faulty deck of cards. He was finally given a reshuffle this year and we shall see how they land. Show up or shut up!
Comment by Jake T. — May 20, 2008 @ 9:28 am
You mean to tell me Herm and Carl have admitted their mistakes!!?? Actually Herm and Carl have done nothing but throw people under the bus and have never taken responsibility for loss after loss. They always have excuses! And when Herm makes questionable call after questionable call during games, how long must we as fans continue to let him slide?? Gunther was not given an extra year or two when he was coaching! So why should Herm be given any extra credit??? I almost always support the players and will continue to do so! However, this falls on management! The coaches and management must do their “damn” jobs as well!! They are the ones that created this faulty deck of cards! They should have been held accountable last season but were not, so now we have to live with more laughable press conferences after losses and deal with this regime for yet another season! Change must occur or we will be having this same converstion next year at this time! Showing up is fine, but shutting up as you say is not going to happen as long as we have this poor of a product on the field! But if you never voice your opinion then you must accept what ever befalls the team. I am one fan that feels fans should not accept losing as you seem to be doing with no problem! Giving people a chance is great, but the point is both Herm and Carl have had their chances and they fumbled the ball! How many more fumbles must we witness as fans before someone somewhere does something to bring a Championship to K.C.? The draft was great, but that could have been conducted by a high school coach given where they were picking! I for one will show up and support the players but Herm and Carl have not given any solid evidence in the past that they deserve our continued support! If the fans do, then they deserve to have losing season after losing season! So make your choice!
Comment by goldzone44 — May 22, 2008 @ 1:10 am
JD,
Great read as usual. Never mind this Jake guy. There seems to be no evidence of taking those comments out of context. They’re actually extremely self-contained statements.
Fact is, Herm hasn’t proven much of anything that qualifies him as an NFL head coach. Conversely, he’s proven to have quite a lot of deficiencies. I don’t know where all these people’s blind hope that he’ll suddenly become a good coach comes from, but maybe i should start smoking it.
Comment by VLTC — May 22, 2008 @ 9:05 am
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by goldzone44 — May 23, 2008 @ 5:13 pm
This is going to make a great article. I can shed lots of light on this matter. The fact is that Carl Peterson has generated income and maintained filling stadium seats, however he has neglected the team. Herm is not a great coach, but he’s a payer’s coach, and a fighter. Herm needs a GM like Bill Parcell’s to light his fire. I would like to see a Hall of Fame Coaching Staff on the Chiefs, but we don’t have that right now. I get the feeling that big name players don’t want to play for Carl Peterson, unless they have no where else to go. Like Ty Law for example. As Chief’s fans we must go with what we have and support them UNTIL FUTHER NOTICE !!
Comment by Argin — May 25, 2008 @ 1:32 pm
Why must we go with what we have and support them??? There are many qualified candidates that would do a better job right now!! Must we suffer through two or three more bad seasons when we could do something about it! Supporting people just for the sake of supporting does no good unless they give you a reason to support them! JD makes a very clear cut reason for change “right now”! Clearly, C. Hunt will not make any changes before the season starts and I for one will be hoping they win their games, but it might snow in the middle of July as well! The support should have dried up by now, so the question will be, when does the support dry up?? If not now????
Comment by goldzone44 — May 27, 2008 @ 1:44 am
If you don’t support the Chiefs you are wasting your time reading anything about them. If you don’t support the new Chiefs don’t show up to the games and don’t turn on your TV’s. If you don’t support the Chiefs go support the dolphins see who gets to the playoffs first. GMs don’t play the game or call the plays. And anyone thinks Herm is not an NFL quality coach look at the current coaches in the NFl almost a higher turnover ratio than UPS. Very few can manage every aspect of the game in the big league. Herm is a role player he doesn’t do everything but what he does he does well. He needs better coaching around him and better players that he picks and sees potential in. For those of you who have already given up I don’t expect to see you on sundays come september and frankly glad I won’t.
Comment by Jake T. — May 27, 2008 @ 9:56 pm
What Herm does, he does well???????????????, What are you smoking my man???? Listen, I love your dedication but you have got to be kidding me! Just because there might be a few coaches who are just as bad does not make Edwards worth keeping around! But we’ll just have to see if I am proved wrong! I sincerly hope that I am!
Comment by goldzone44 — May 28, 2008 @ 4:56 am
While staying congenial, i’d really like to hear what people think Herm does well? And please don’t say “drafting” because:
(1) That’s relatively low on HEAD COACHING duties. There are full time people that worry about that (scouts, kukarich). The head coach has a lot of other things to worry about (and should be good at) too.
(2) Herms actual ability in this area is still debatable. His Chiefs drafts are still too recent to fully critique and even if they are good, his is only one voice of many. Secondly, his Jets drafts are unimpressive.
Comment by VLTC — May 28, 2008 @ 10:09 am
Herman Edwards took the Chiefs to the Playoffs during his first year as the Head Coach. How many coaches can take their team to the playoffs their 1st year with a team?? Not many. Herm has coached with the Chiefs before, so he knows the orgaization very well. Herm is a former player who understands the game of football, and he cators to his players, thus making him a player’s coach. Players like Herm. Herm has done a better job than Gunther Cunningham when he was the Chiefs coach. Herm is a Black coach, something that we need more of in the NFL. Herm is also a student of Dick Vermiel regarding coaching. If you are going to give up on the Chiefs because of Herm, the other guy was right, DON’T SHOW UP ON SUNDAY WHEN MY BOYS TAKE THE FIELD. You are NOT a true Chiefs fan!! I hate Greg Wesley, but as long as he puts on a Red and Gold jersey, I will support his lazy ass. Question? Why did the Chiefs just sign to cornerbacks, one who was on IR all last year, and the other who is a flat out bum. Are you going to support these guys or hate them like you do Herm? Like J.T. said, the Head Coaching position is NOT an easy one, and I think that Herm is doing a hell of a job because it could be worse. Carl Peterson is another story, but keep in mind that Herm can only do what Carl tells him or asks him. So, it aint all Herm’s fault. Also, the Chiefs needed a Black coach in its history because times have changed. We no longer live in the 1960′s. Give the guy chance to turn the team around after carrying Dick Vermiel’s Chiefs for the past 3 years. Now, it’s Herm’s team, so give him 2 years or 3 with HIS team, then let’s talk about what he has or hasn’t done. But, in the meantime, will ONLY the real Chiefs’ fans stand up !!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Argin — May 28, 2008 @ 11:14 pm
It is nice to see a black coach for the Chiefs! But in this particular scenario skin color is not the issue! The issue is whether or not Edwards is up to the task! Plus, he has already had two seasons so with this being the third, if he does’nt turn it around this year he should be run out of town! Your comment about Players liking Herm is a very questionable one, because as soon as he came on board key players retired and trying to get a significant free agent to have any interest in playing for the Chiefs has been next to impossible! If they liked Herm they would be scrambling to play for him and that is just not the case!
Comment by goldzone44 — May 29, 2008 @ 1:18 am
Without arguing or calling your wrong, let me provide counter-points:
>Herman Edwards took the Chiefs to the Playoffs during his
>first year as the Head Coach.
Considering they were worse (9-7) than the year before (10-6), I do not consider that an accomplishment.
>Not many. Herm has coached with the Chiefs before, so he
>knows the orgaization very well.
Most the organization is different now, including the owner. I don’t see how this makes him a better head coach.
>Herm is a former player who understands the game of
>football, and he cators to his players, thus making him a
>player’s coach. Players like Herm.
I refer to goldzone’s comments above.
>Herm has done a better job than Gunther Cunningham when he
>was the Chiefs coach.
By what metric? Gunther was only given 2 years, so maybe Herm should be gone too!
>Herm is a Black coach, something that we need more of in
>the NFL.
I don’t think race has anything to do with coaching ability. I also don’t understand the comment that the NFL needs more “black” coaches? Why is that? There are currently 6 “black” coaches (by my count) out of 32 NFL jobs. That’s 19%. According to the 2000 census, 13% of americans reported themselves as “black”. So by what metric does the NFL need “more”?
>Now, it’s Herm’s team, so give him 2 years or 3 with HIS
>team, then let’s talk about what he has or hasn’t done.
If it takes Herm 3 years to take responsibility, that just proves how bad a head coach he is. On one hand you give him credit for going to the playoffs in 2006, then claim he hasn’t has “his” team yet? Come on, you’re not going to slip that one past anyone.
>But, in the meantime, will ONLY the real Chiefs’ fans
>stand up !!!!!!!!!!
Why is disapproving of the head coach automatically make you a bad/fake fan? You obviously disapprove of Carl, does that make you a non-real fan?
Comment by a fan whether you like it or not — May 29, 2008 @ 9:51 am
It’s nice to be getting some support from other “true fans” on my recent posts! I know that the MAJORITY of fans disapprove of the current administration, however there are a few who have been throwing me under the bus for wanting a better team and organization! It gives me hope for the future that we fans that will stand up and voice their displeasure with the current state of affairs! But like I said, I will still hope that I’m wrong and eat my words if they are successful this season and beyond! It’s just that the facts and the history are on the side that it won’t be under this group of leaders!
Comment by goldzone44 — May 31, 2008 @ 6:58 am
All I’m saying is it takes time to establish a complete team in the NFL. When Herm came on he inherited someone else’s team and did pretty good with them. It was short lived. At the end of it, players retired and were traded. Now, he is rebuilding and he can build as he sees fit. Now, we start this thing over again. Give him 3 more years with the new product. Now, I am NOT totally confident with Herm being our head coach. I would much rather see Jimmy Johnson come out of retirement and be our coach, but since Herm is hear I want to give him a fighting chance. Also, I meant no harm with my comment about the NFL and Black coaches. Black coaches were not trusted to coach, just like Black quarterbacks were not trusted to start during my childhood. So, it is rewarding and it is pleasing to see a Black coach or a Black quarterback. However, I SUPPORT THE PERSON BEST QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB. Let me make that very clear. Screw your race, it’s all about the best qualified, and the best fit. And last, maybe I was too hard on Goldzone44 about him not being a true fan. But, if he doesn’t do better than 4-12 this year, then I will say that it’s time to go. Personally, I think that we can win 10 games this year with the young boys. Don’t be surprised. I have faith.
Comment by Argin — June 4, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
JD,
I agree with you whole heartedly. You say what most fed up Chiefs fans think and add some humor to it. Carl is a moron and Herm couldn’t run a lemonaide stand.
Comment by Mark — July 30, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
Look herm has coach the chiefs a very long time a go with Marty S
Comment by Michael Diedrich — August 1, 2008 @ 1:16 am