More useless quotes from Blob, CP, and everyone’s favorite toolbox, yours truly. I will try not to embarrass myself this column, but I make no promises.
Also, no Hermisms this week. It’s not that he didn’t say any, I’m just not counting pre-season idiocy. I’m waiting for his regular season excuses.
2008 Predictions
I know everyone has been waiting with bated breath for my game-by-game predictions. After spending several hours analyzing rosters, schedules, trends, team histories, wind conditions, and the gross national product of Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, here are the exact scores for every Chiefs game this year.
L 10-13 @ New England
L 10-13 Oakland
L 10-13 @ Atlanta
L 10-13 Denver
L 10-13 @ Carolina
W 13-10 Tennessee
L 10-13 @ Jets
L 10-13 Tampa
L 10-13 @ San Diego
W 13-10 New Orleans
L 10-13 Buffalo
W 13-10 @ Oakland
L 6-35 @ Denver
W 13-10 San Diego
L 10-13 Miami
L 10-13ot @ Cincinnati
Of course I’m kidding with 15 games being 13-10, we know that won’t happen. They’ll win in Oakland 12-10.
Seriously, looking at Herm’s record, he tends to win 9-10 games every other year, and this would be that year. Herm does just enough to save his job when the heat is on, but I just don’t see it this year. I hope I’m wrong, I really do, but we also need to be realistic.
Let’s break some of these down.
New England
As bad as the Chiefs are, they can win if Brady does not play, or gets taken out early (he is currently injured, but says he’ll be ready for us).
Oakland
Herm has started 0-2 the last two years in a row, so the trend says to pick Oakland. They aren’t any good either, but they did win @ Arrowhead last year.
Atlanta
The Chiefs should win this, but since everyone and their mom has this penciled as an easy win, the trend says to go against the public and take Atlanta. No 4-12 team should ever pencil in any team as a gimmie win. Period.
Denver
KC lost badly twice last year to the Donkeys, and I’m not picking them to win until they earn it.
Tennessee
Same theory as Atlanta, I think Tennessee will pencil this in as any easy win and the Chiefs take them.
Tampa Bay
This game could go wither way for me. It depends on which Tampa team shows up.
New Orleans
The Saints are the better team, but I think they will get caught looking ahead and self-destruct.
Buffalo
Buffalo is better than most think and they will get KC right after an upset win to knock them back down to reality.
Denver
KC is 4-21 @ Denver since 1983. ‘Nuff said!
San Diego & Miami
Same reasoning as New Orleans and Buffalo.
Cincinnati
KC hasn’t won there since 1984, and just like 2007, the Chiefs will go out with a wimper in overtime in what will hopefully be the great Herm Edwards and King Carl’s last game with the Chiefs. And then finally, a competent rebuilding of the Chiefs.
Bob Gretz
Mr. Gretz recently wrote an article concerning the training camp injuries to both Kansas City’s 1st round draft picks. His point was for people not to panic, that the season was not over before it started. While that can be a good point to make, he still did it in typical Bob fashion. I’m not going to waste time and space reprinting the whole piece, just the two paragraphs that jumped out at me. They are pretty self-contained are not taken out of context.
Chiefs Have Not Crashed & Burned
Aug 05, 2008, 6:13:16 AM by Bob Gretz – FAQ
GRETZ: “But a funny thing happened on the way to the premature end of the Chiefs season. Those players who could work went out on Monday and put together the best back-to-back practices of training camp. So intense was the action in the afternoon session – without full pads – that Herm Edwards is going to back off a bit on the practice work in the next few days.”
JD: Wow, the best back-to-back practices with no pads? Look out Super Bowl!
GRETZ: “….that Herm Edwards is going to back off a bit on the practice work in the next few days.”
JD: Wait a minute, they work hard for two practices and they get to take it easy the next three days? You only won four games last year. FOUR. I can see dialing it down for the afternoon or next practice, but a few days?
GRETZ: “There’s no question that injuries can damage a team and its chances for success. When Larry Johnson went down with his foot injury last year, the Chiefs did not win another game. Now that’s devastating. But come on, two guys who have never played a game in the NFL go down for a few weeks and the season is ruined? That’s ridiculous.”
JD: When you have a NINE game losing streak, and you are depending on “two guys who have never played a game in the NFL” to immediately start and contribute, and they are out to injury, yes Blob, it is cause for concern.
Carl Peterson
Last article I posted this quote from Carl Peterson from this year:
PETERSON: “Our previous head coaches didn’t want to do it in this fashion. They wanted to play veteran players and were reluctant to play young players. Herm has a different philosophy, and you always try to go with the philosophy of your head coach because at the end of the day, he’s the one who has to get the most out of them.”
JD: Well, I just watched “Hard Knocks”, and there is a part where they are discussing who the starting quarterback should be, and Carl pretty much says it should be Damon Huard because he’s the veteran, while Herm looks to be leaning to Croyle.
It looks like our current GM “wanted to play veteran players and we were reluctant to play young players.”
Actually, ever since I crowned our head coach, “Herm The Liar”, I think Carl got jealous. I think he wants that title from Herm. If he keeps making statements like that, we may just have a battle royal for the title of “The Liar.” I’ll keep you posted.
New York Mets Manager Willie Randolph
From the 6/25, Jeffrey Flanagan KC Star article:
“Don’t know if you caught that quote from fired Mets manager Willie Randolph, who was asked whether African-Americans are held to a higher standard in the coaching/managing world of New York.”
“I don’t know how to put my finger on it, but I think there’s something there,” he said. “Herman Edwards did pretty well here . . . and they were pretty hard on Herm. Isiah (Thomas) didn’t do a great job, but they beat up Isiah pretty good.”
JD: Hate to break it to you Willie, if Herm “did pretty well” in NY, the Jets and their fans wouldn’t have packed his bags, drove him to the airport, and personally flown him to KC (I have a sneaking feeling that there may be Chief fans already lining up to return the favor). Fans want winners and I don’t think they care what color you are, as long as you win.
KCFX the FOX!
Kudos to KCFX in the pre-season internet broadcast of the first two Chiefs games. They almost managed to play as much of the game as they did KCFX promos!
You don’t realize how long 10, 20, and 30 seconds are till you hear the same promo played 148 times in a row. If KCFX wanted to get people to really hate their station and their on-air talent, then they’re doing a great job. Maybe they are taking a cue from Carl and Herm and are running the radio station with rookies and draft picks.
Just a thought, but maybe they should let the producers of the radio broadcast run the internet broadcast as well? Either way, I expect it to be fixed by the regular season, so that should be good news for those of us outside of Missouri and Kansas.
Kool-Aide: Taste Great or Less Filling?
The Chief fan base seems to be splitting into two camps: the Kool-Aide drinkers from Imagination Land and the Realists from Negativille. There is nothing wrong with drinking Kool-Aide, but unfortunately some of the current class have the blinders on so tight Ray Charles asks them to move out of the way. Some are more upset with me than the man who has set a Chiefs record non-strike losing streak of nine games. NINE GAMES.
But that’s ok, I do have to take some responsibility. It was my negativitah that caused Herm to not get into “kicking competitions” and keep a kicker who would eventually cost us wins against Oakland and Indy. Wait a minute! I thought all bad player acquisitions were Dick Vermeil’s fault? I’m sure there’s a way to blame both myself and DV for this, I’ll get back to you on it.
Speaking of Dick Vermeil, anyone see the movie, “Invincible”? Greg Kinnear, who played Dick Vermeil, kept signing all these old, overpriced free agents. No wonder why the Eagles sucked in that movie.
Anyway, back on topic. The problem with bathing in the Kool-Aide & having white-hot passion for your team, especially a bad team, is eventually they will let you down. You will eventually burn yourself out, or even hate the team you came to love, but probably you will just lower your expectations and become a Realist.
Hate me all you want, but deep down you all know Herm could coach the Harlem Globetrotters into a losing streak. So keep making excuses for him, but when he’s eventually fired and the Chiefs start winning again, your predictable silence will be apology enough.
Before anyone gets all huffy, I’m only referring to the Kool-Aides who like to personally attack me and ignore the facts. Like I said, sipping the wine is fine, just don’t let it blind your mind.
On a side note, since I don’t live in Kansas or Missouri, maybe someone can tell me, is “toolbox” considered a putdown there? Some brave, intellectual engineer really laid the wood to me with that verbal buzzsaw. I’m sure now he’ll try to up the ante and graduate to a 2nd grade name-calling Do-Si-Do. It’s funny how most of the Kool-Aiders never really debate or address the arguments I’ve laid out, but instead fly ego first into personal attacks. You darn toolboxes!
Letters to the Know-It-All (that’s me)
Today’s Weekly Letter of The Month (or TWLOTM), is from Jake and it was posted on my last article:
JAKE: “I think you’re an idiot. Not only do I disagree with your opinions, but I really dislike how you do it, taking someone’s email and responding to sections of it out of context. You’re a little twerp. If I wasn’t so lazy I would respond to your silly post in a similar fashion. As it is, I’ll just say this: Herm is not a great coach, Carl is not a great GM/President, and the Chiefs are not a good football team right now. However, they are on their way to being a good team. The best way for the Chiefs to get good again is a youth movement through the draft. New young, energetic, loyal players who are true Chiefs. Trust me, in two more drafts this team will have as much talent as any team in the league. Then there is no excuse for not winning. You’re dismissed, JD.”
JD: You know the main reason I respond line by line is because it’s just easier to read. If I printed a letter or a press conference transcript in full and then responded at the end, it would look like one giant monotonous never-ending paragraph, or a letter from Jake, and no one would want to read it. I printed your post in full first, so you can’t say I took it out of context. But I’m sure you still will.
Now let’s get a couple of glasses and get to the bottom of your wine.
JAKE: “I think you’re an idiot.”
JD: I thought I was a toolbox? Well, either way, you sure put me in my place. I guess I should just go home since I can’t really argue with that kind of witticism there, Mr. Wordsmith. I know when I’ve been intellectually outmatched. Round one to you Mr. Jake. Curses!
JAKE: “Not only do I disagree with your opinions, but I really dislike how you do it, taking someone’s email and responding to sections of it out of context.”
JD: “Taking it out of context” is always the battle cry of someone who said something they can’t defend or take back. Have you ever noticed how people who cry “you take me out of context” hardly ever say what context it was in?
Kind of like everyone’s favorite Rev. Wright, saying the government invented aids to give to African Americans. Then he said he was taken out of context, but neglected to give what the context was. Then he went to repeat the statement three more times, proving what we already knew, that it was indeed, not taken out of context.
Last article I printed the ENTIRE critical email from a dedicated reader. What was out of context? IT WAS ALL THERE.
JAKE: “You’re a little twerp.”
JD: Little? I’M ALL MAN LADY!!!
(Relax, it’s a movie quote. Know which one? The first person with the correct answer wins absolutely nothing.)
JAKE: “If I wasn’t so lazy I would respond to your silly post in a similar fashion.”
JD: I wish you would’ve. The 600 word manifesto in your first post was a little hard to read. You should try the paragraph. I know it’s new, but you’ll get used to it
JAKE: “As it is, I’ll just say this: Herm is not a great coach, Carl is not a great GM/President, and the Chiefs are not a good football team right now. However, they are on their way to being a good team.
JD: They aren’t great, but they’re on their way to being good? Not sure what kind of expectations you have for the Chiefs, but I don’t want a good team, I want a Super Bowl winning team.
JAKE: “The best way for the Chiefs to get good again is a youth movement through the draft. New young, energetic, loyal players who are true Chiefs.”
JD: You mean young, energetic, loyal players like Jared Allen? Hoooaa! What? Too soon? Trent Green was loyal, look what that got him. Tony Richardson was a true Chief, where is he now?
JAKE: “Trust me, in two more drafts this team will have as much talent as any team in the league. Then there is no excuse for not winning.”
JD: Why wait two years to find out what everyone else already knows? This is now a league of one year turnarounds, yet you want to take three. Question for you, if Herm is so great, why didn’t he win a Super Bowl in NY?
I did notice in your little Odyssey, that you said you’ve attended 50 Chiefs games. That can break down to eight regular season games + two pre-season games a year and comes out to five seasons, so I can safely assume you are at least six years old. Follow me for a minute on this one, with the Jets, Herm had five years to draft “as much talent as any team in the league”. Why did the Jets let Herm go if he’s so good? NY fans couldn’t pack his bags fast enough, and they even posted on the MBs over here warning us about Herm.
Goldzone44 thanked you for being a Chiefs fan, as do I, but c’mon man, wake up! Do you like watching your favorite team set records for losing? Do you like watching your favorite team lose 10-13 to the sucky Jets as well as the Colts?
It’s funny that so many blame the current Chiefs troubles on previous Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil. By that logic, who should be blamed for the current Jets troubles? Herm can’t get a pass for both KC and NY. Now, are you done, can I go?
JAKE: “You’re dismissed, JD.”
JD-
Another fabulous article! I find myself at a real crossroads this year. Being a lifelong Chiefs fan makes it impossible not to pull for the Chiefs! I wondered how I would react when they laced it up for the first pre-season game. I found myself pulling for them with the same passion that I always have. It is just impossible for me not to cheer wildly for the Chiefs in each game.
However, I am in full agreement with your takes on Herm and Carl. And when the losses pile up this year, which they undoubtedly will, I will take them in stride knowing that the end of a failed regime is nearing. After the recent pre-season disaster in Miami Herm said “I have no idea why that happened”, is exactly the point! How is it that he has “no idea”! I am completly fed up and will hope that he gets run before the season is out.
But that will only come if C. Hunt has the intestinal fortitude to do what is right! My greatest fear is that they somehow make it to 7-9 or 8-8 and therefore retain both King Carl and Herm for next season. And then we will be dealing with this all over again next August.
But like I said, it is one strange emotion hoping they win on one hand and on the other hoping they prove yet again why a regime change is needed. Hitting rock bottom once again may be the only way to implement the change that is needed. But on September 7th, I will be tuned in and praying for an upset! But I also have beachfront property in Arizona that the readers might be interested in!
One last comment, in light of the recent games just concluded in China. The Chinese have a saying, “May you live in interesting times”.
Interesting times for Chiefs fans indeed! But JD, you forgot to mix in a 9-6 score.
Comment by Goldzone44 — August 26, 2008 @ 2:04 am
JD your the man. I love all the 13-10 games. hahahaha so true
Comment by Jones — August 26, 2008 @ 5:39 am
JD,
Did you see I have been accused of being the hammer in your toolbox? What does that mean exactly. Shoot , I thought it was a compliment! I am sure it is some type of insult, but what type am not sure. Have you seen the insults I have had to endure on some of the other blogs? Jeez, all because I want the Chiefs to field a winning team.
Comment by g.l. — August 26, 2008 @ 9:20 am
GZ,
2008 is a great catch 22. Of course we want the Chiefs to win, but if they win, Herm keeps his job. I’m trying to think of a scenario where the Chiefs win 10 games, but Herm still gets fired. I can dream, can’t I?
g.l,
You & I took quite a beating, but it comes with the territory. You are my hammer!
Thanks Jones!
Comment by JD — August 26, 2008 @ 10:47 am
Mallrats! I will take my prize in weekly increments.
Nice article. And after all of your 13-10 predictions the only chiefs player that I am taking in fantasy is the kicker that we pick up after Jay Feeley gets fired.
Comment by Bryan — August 26, 2008 @ 7:24 pm
Man Im a big Chiefs fan and will support the team regardless of what negative comments I hear but this article had me rolling. I have to give it to you. Maybe Herm will do like Dungy did in Tampa by building a young squad through the draft and get another head coach like Gruden to win us a Super Bowl. But for now I will support Herm but I still say Queen Carl has to go!
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 26, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
J-Rock-
Can you give us a good reason why you are drinking the Kool Aid and supporting Herm??? Yes, we all want the Chiefs to win, but supporting Herm is a wrong way street if you want the Chiefs to win!
Comment by Goldzone44 — August 26, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
Im supporting Herm because I supported the previous coaches we had. I even support Gunther Cunningham as terrible as he was as a head coach. I guess you can say its not so much as supporting, its like wishful thinking. Worst case scenerio is if Herm does not succeed then he will have put the team in a position for the next coach to with a lot of young players and letting them grow together. All will be needed after that is a few vets for leadership.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 27, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
Another thing you fail to realize is its been over 40 years since we have been to the Super Bowl. So to me its fair to say that none of the coaches we’ve had in that span deserves a chance to be the Chiefs head coach. So why single out Herm but I still supported them.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 27, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
For correctly answering the trivia question, Bryan wins a year supply of absolutely nothing. Congratulations! You will be receiving said prize on the first of every month. Enjoy.
Thanks J-Rock!
Comment by JD — August 27, 2008 @ 3:24 pm
JD & everybody els…
I think all of you sound like the NY Giants fans. “Coughlin must go he sucks” but now that he has won Oh I never said that he a graet coach. Im not saying Herm is the answer but in noway will I ever wish bad on a head coach of the CHIEFS.I just hope that if the Chiefs with Herm ever win the superbowl you all are man and say you where wrong.
Comment by Steve — August 27, 2008 @ 5:52 pm
I personally do not like the kool-aide knickname I think its childish and immature, Herm is such a horrible coach and person to have on the sidelines to lead men that I really think it should be the Fig Newtoners, but that’s just me. With any luck his next coaching job will be for a pop warner team where maybe someone will buy into his constant B.S.
I’m all for putting together a young squad but sometimes veteran free agents do make sense, like for instance on our O-line. Rookies rarely shine in their first few years as lineman so why would anyone have thought that drafting two lineman would solve anything? I sure hope we look for a Steve Hutchinson or another Roaf or Shields in free agency next off season, otherwise this rebuilding is gonna take a really long time.
Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — August 27, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
One other question I have is why is it we picked up every other Jets reject this off-season why did’nt we just ice the cake and sign Pennington?
Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — August 27, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
JD,
Love your articles, but jeez you can be an idiot (my bad… i meant toolbox) at times……..we are going to loose more than one game by more than 3 points. (LOL just kidding bout the idiot/toolbox part)
PLEASE dont write an article about me (LOL)
First off let me say thanks for not talking about the “pre season Hermisms” as there will be plenty enough to go around during the regular season.
I thought you and goldzone44 and VermeilLikesToCry would get a kick out of a dream I had the other night. It was like the old Charlie Brown/Lucy skit where Charlie Brown was played by us the fans and we were getting ready to kick the ball that Lucy was holding. We (chiefs fans) were intently concentrating on kicking the ball (the ball must have been representing our season). We lined it up and started to run to kick it and at the last moment Lucy pulled it away. Only thing is it wasn’t Lucy it was Carl and Herm. They pulled the ball away and we landed flat on our Ass and they just laughed and laughed. Sad part is, IT WASN’T A DREAM!!! UUUUGGGGGHHHH!!!
Anyway, love your commentaries, keep up the good work!!
By the way…………what is the gross national product of Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan??? Always wondered, never new anyone that had the answer!!
Fellow toolbox
Dennis
Comment by dennis — August 27, 2008 @ 11:13 pm
Steve-
I have said all along that I will be the first to admit I am wrong if the Chiefs can succeed this season and beyond with Herm and King Carl at the helm. However, when a GM has twenty years on the job and hasn’t won a playoff game since Joe Montana was around, then how can we be men and say we’re wrong if they succeed this season? Will it make up for the years of failure leading up to this year? Every dog has his day and maybe the Chiefs will do better than most, including myself have predicted. But Herm and Carl have had enough time to get it right and it simply isn’t happening.
I will give Peterson props for his years in the ’90′s and with a little luck and some better officiating in the home playoff game against the Broncos many, many years ago things may have been different. But that was so long ago and so many bad seasons have passed that it is time to move on and has been for a few years now. But the blind loyalty of the Hunts keeps us down! If the Chiefs have a good season I will be a very happy man, but we need to keep things real here and keep the Kool-Aid drinkers at bay, otherwise we will never get off this nasty treadmill!
Comment by Goldzone44 — August 28, 2008 @ 3:18 am
Dennis-
That was hilarious! All I can say is, try to stay awake! Ha!
Comment by Goldzone44 — August 28, 2008 @ 3:21 am
One more point… Many of you are probably thinking, how can a few of us be so negative when the season hasn’t even started? Well, all I can say is I’ve watched enough football to know what we are heading for this season. And some of us are just getting a jump start on things to assure that the Chiefs organization does not have any doubt as to the state of the fans and the opinions of the season ticket holders. If they know the die hard fans will not accept another off-season of inactivity when it comes to removing Coaches and GM’s. Maybe they’ll get the point if we wail on them all year! Instead of waiting too long like last year.
Comment by Goldzone44 — August 28, 2008 @ 3:30 am
JD & everybody els…
I think all of you sound like the NY Giants fans. “Coughlin must go he sucks†but now that he has won Oh I never said that he a graet coach. Im not saying Herm is the answer but in noway will I ever wish bad on a head coach of the CHIEFS.I just hope that if the Chiefs with Herm ever win the superbowl you all are man and say you where wrong.
Comment by Steve — August 27, 2008 @ 5:52 pm
Hey….I said this comment on “The Blame Game Continues”
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 28, 2008 @ 5:02 am
JD,
I apologize for calling you an idiot it seems to me that you’re just uneducated in the facts of life. You can always get what you want, but when you don’t you work toward finding it through all means. Your rants prove little effort toward building a team and show a fourth grade whining cause his mom won’t buy him a happy meal. I would rather have a consistently good team than a one hit wonder like the Rams. Their fan base is crap. It’s people like you that is turning our ship in that same direction.
Comment by Jake T. — August 28, 2008 @ 8:59 am
JD,
Hey look a new paragraph!
I want a team like the one in the early 90′s when I first started going to games. Granted I was only six years old but those games were more memorable because we had real fans then. The stands were filled, but the seats were not at least whenever the opposing qb hit the turf 5-8 times a game. KC used to be the most feared place to play. Opposing teams knew what ws coming and still they couldn’t stop it. That to me is more than a superbowl. I’m sure the trophy room would look a lot better with a big Lambardi trophy.
You seem like the typical air head American always wanting everything now. Instant gratification is what it’s called. You don’t realize that things take time regardless of labels like NFL. There has never been a team that walked to the playoffs. Our team is walking right now deal with it. The Giants played there ass off last year dominating the line of scrimmage on both sides. We are building our offensive line the way we did in the 90′s and it will work. With the Grunhard Shields and Szott. We were one of the best and we won games filled the stands.
It’s great to have something to work for like a football trophy, for football players, and Mcmansion’s for arrogant americans not satisfied with their lives but want something to show for it. The fact is only a small percentage can actualize the highest “declared form of achievement” that doesn’t make them the best it just means they use the most advantageous of circumstances to get what they wanted. It ain’t luck it’s circumstance.
Eventually you will realize I am right and you are just… a whiner.
I can’t wait to hear what you whine about next. Cause your so funny! “cough bullsh** cough”
I hope you realize what it means to be a Chiefs fan before you start rooting for another team just because you can’t put aside your vendetta against Carl/Herm. If you know someone that can do a better job, or make no mistakes like you ask for, then why don’t you go tell clark his choice to keep Carl upset you and he needs to pick someone else.
Comment by Jake T. — August 28, 2008 @ 9:27 am
Goldzone44
I’m confused you always say Peterson & Herm have had plenty of time yes you are wright Peterson has had a lot of time.But if you think going into your 3rd season is along time to fix a smashed and going nowhere team then maybe your wright Herm has been there to long.” NOT!!!” This is really the 2nd season of Herm’s rebuilding and it takes time to rebuild.Now I agree with you that maybe Carl has out lived his usefulness. Now don’t think I’m in love Herm but I’m willing to give him a reasonable amount of time to try and get the job done.I don’t know any head coach in NFL history that got it done in two season. Oh Jon Gruden doesn’t count because his ring belong to Dunge.
I do think you do love the Chiefs and you truly want them to win but in your frustration of all the loosing your blaming everything on Herm but he just got here.Yell at Carl all you want.
Comment by Steve — August 28, 2008 @ 2:37 pm
Love all the scores! Question: Wouldn’t all those “13-10″ games then be counted as a success by Herm?
Comment by Jeff — August 28, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
Response to comment #15 first paragraph last sentence. I can see that Queen Carla has had enough time to succeed but how could you sat that about Herm. He’s only had 2 complete seasons with the Chiefs. Give him time to see how he develop his draft picks. We haven’t had much success lately from previous drafts. Two season is not close to being enough time to develop players. Take a look at Neil Smith, Michael Strahan, Lawrence Taylor, and Dwight Freeney stats. These are just a few. My point is you have to give them time to let the coaches develop them. Look how Jared Allen turned out ( Dang I miss that guy.)
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 28, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
I don’t care who you play against but the Chiefs looked good tonight. Now before everyone says oh gee they played against backups well folks you are the people that say out team and coaches are only second string quality so I guess tonight our second strings kicked some ass compared to St. Louis. I went to the game and I actually saw a few fans there to some surprise. Granted waiting an hour and drinking some libations make the experience better but I can say compared to the last governor’s cup I don’t know who’s fans are more pathetic. I will give some slack because of weather and god forbid st. Louis fans ever have to deal with the weather. At least we show up for kickoff and make our own noise instead of relying on speakers. The St. Louis game last year was the most upsetting of the preseason games. We had no confidence and expected that playing a full 60 minutes with starters would make everything just peachy. Well it didn’t and we started 0-2. If anything thinks we will start 0-2 or even 1-1 this year you are absolutely crazy. Think of this for a moment. New England has done this year what we did last year, made few changes. They went 0-4 in the preseason because they didn’t improve. And what happens when you don’t improve on a season that didn’t provide a Lombardi trophy, you lose. History has shown this. The Chiefs this year have an advantageous circumstance that our young player should relish 24/7. We are not respected and this fact gives us the opportunity to do things. People respect Larry and Tony and D Bowe (only cause he’s no. 1 receiver), but they don’t respect our team.
I should guarantee that on Sept 7th the Chiefs don’t respect the Patriots or everything that makes that team win (Brady + Moss + fundamentals). We won’t do this because they don’t deserve it. We have a better chance of making the playoffs than the patriots. Here’s where everyone begins to think I’m crazy, but just read. I know the Pats are the only team this decade to win 3 super bowls and lady da who cares it’s over they hang the trophy’s and nothing can happen now, but they have never lost a superbowl in this decade either, at least until this year. Don’t be surprised if our linemen push them around most of the game. Don’t be surprised when Tony G. gets involved. Don’t be surprised when Charles makes one of the greatest teams in the history of sports look like the truly slow defense they are. Don’t be surprised when the Chiefs lost to the patriots because we have the youngest team in football. Still don’t be surprised when the Chiefs beat the Patriots 31-17 because we were hungrier to end to end a losing streak more than they were. Over the last five games regardless of meaning Pats 0-5 Chiefs 2-3. Moving forward I expect the Chiefs win more games over the next three years than the patriots. Besides the fact that their division is becoming more competitive and ours less we will do it with planning which is not what they had when they first won the Lombardi during the 2001 Campaign. Anything is possible, just like it’s possible to fill the stands every game and have a great time or it’s possible you can just whine at home about your miserable lives wishing you had something to cheer for, well you finally have it. Invite your friends over and enjoy a spectacle on Sunday the 7th. God won’t care if you miss service to prepare because he hate that thieving Billy B. Just have a good time and watch some football because it’s here and here to stay for the next 20+ weeks depending who you are.
By the way this site is b*llsh*t and I only benefit to the extent I am able to learn about the sh*tty side of the chiefs fan base. It disgusts me, but I feel your pain. It may be tough but suck it up and do your best cause this is what you got so don’t waste it. And especially don’t think that you can outnumber the real chiefs fans that show up and have a good time. You will not ruin this for us, so you might as well join us and go about your endeavor in a different course other than not showing up.
Comment by Jake T. — August 29, 2008 @ 2:23 am
You’re right JD, a 4-12 team shouldn’t be penciling in any wins, and are they? Have you once heard any Chiefs player actually say they are going to beat Atlanta, or any other team?
Comment by Nick G. — August 29, 2008 @ 5:11 pm
I really don’t understand this “real fan” stuff. It sounds just like when people claim “you’re not a patriot unless you think George W. Bush is a great president”. One doesn’t have anything to do with the other.
Lets have a dialog. If you think Herm is a good NFL head coach, bring some ideas and facts to the table that support that notion.
We don’t need “more time” to see what kind of coach Herm is. We already know. We already have 7 years of Herm the Head Coach data. Based on that info (poor game planning, lacks ability to make in game adjustments, coaches ‘scared’ and often times ultra-conservative, poor clock management, doesn’t understand offense, etc.) I believe he is a bad fit as head coach for my favorite (or any) NFL team.
Comment by VLTC — August 29, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
VLTC
I personaly don’t think your not a “real fan” I think you realy love the chiefs as I do, but as for Herm I live in NY so I’ve seen frist hand what kind of head coach Herm is.Is he a graet coach not by the standard that he has not won superbowl but he has coach a team to the playoffes 3 times.So if he has done that then he must have made some game time adjustment he also must have some game plans that worked because I might be wrong but didnt the Jets go to AFC championship game with Herm or they where with in a game of it. We had a head coach that was 1 and 1 in the superbowl but we only went to the play offs once and lost in the frist round. But becuase he won a superbowl he’s grate thats what I don’t understand.You can win and then cripple a team and still be grate. Also Herm was on a team that would not let him draft players to the way he is here and if you do not draft right you do not win champion ships and be come good enough win alot of them. So you want facts these are the facts.
Comment by Steve — August 29, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
Response to comment number 26. The part that get me is “POOR CLOCK MANAGEMENT!” How could you say that when the Chiefs are leading the preseason in time of possession? Check out the time of possession for each season
2006 Chiefs: 30:30 Opponents: 30:17
2007 Chiefs: 30:31 Opponents: 30:18
2008 Chiefs: 31:14 Opponents: 28:45
Are these facts or do you want clock management to look like this?
Chiefs: 59:59 Opponents 00:01
Lets look at our 13-3 season in 2003?
Chiefs: 29:34 Opponents: 30:49
Lets look at the past 3 Super Bowl Champs.
2007 Giants
Giants: 31:21 Opponents: 28:38
2006 Colts
Colts: 29:31 Opponents: 30:28
2005 Patriots
Pats: 30.19 Opponents: 29:40
It is true that Herm does not know anything about offense but Vermiel didnt know anything about defense. I have yet to see a coach to know both offense and defense. Another thing I would like to add is I guess Tom Coughlin and Tony Dungy are offensive geniuses. Bill Belichick is known for is defense. Funny how the Giants passing game was worse than the Chiefs last year. It just takes time. You are saying that we have 7 years of data about Herm but so did the Giants fans when they were screaming fire Tom Coughlin. Bill Belichick didnt prove he deserves the Head Coaching Job. Look at his stats as a Head coach with the Browns. There is more that I could slice up on your comment but Im going to stop at that point.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 30, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
One more thing. Thats why you hire assistants. You have to hire one that fits your scheme. He keep Vermiel’s offense for two seasons so he can keep fans like VLTC happy but it was a big disaster. As time progress you will see this offense will be more productive than the previous two season under the “shift here motion there ‘Oops’ false start” offense.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 30, 2008 @ 2:34 pm
j-rock
first off clock management does not mean time of possession, it means what you do with the ball when you have it. multiple times last season with 2 minutes left in the first half, the chiefs would have the ball in our end only to kneel it down to run the clock out for half or play ultra conservative. what i think vltc was talking about was to try to score points when you have the ball rather than to just get into half time with no major mishaps. why not try to go down and score!! take a chance, try to do something or you will have no experience for a 2 minute drill to end the game!! kneeling down or just playing ultra conservitave just dont make sense. i got so mad when they did this last year.
dennis
Comment by dennis — August 31, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
You all are just too stuck to what you think. Guess what, It doesn’t matter what you think. Just sit back and root for your team like a real fan. Ya they make mistakes that you aren’t gonna like. Guess what, you still have no control. Too many mistakes for you to root for em? Then maybe you should go root for the Broncos or some other band-wagon team. Get over it. All of you.
Comment by FatDaNn — August 31, 2008 @ 5:09 pm
Post #11
Steve – I will be happy to say I was wrong if Herm wins a Super Bowl. Will you do the same when he’s fired? Tom Coughlin never went 4-12 with the Giants, they are a much better team, so I don’t think that really compares.
Post #21
- Marty, DV & Bill Parcells are 2 off the top of my head that turned losing teams into winners in 2 years or less. Absolutely John Gruden should get credit. Dungy had those same players for how many years & he couldn’t get them over the top. Instead of complaining about another coach’s “old, aging, veteran” players, Gruden won a Super Bowl with them. What would Herm have done with all those old guys?
Post #27
- Herm never went to an AFC Championship game. Steve, we all want the same thing, for the Chiefs to win, but in seven years of being a head coach, Herm has not proven he can win on a consistent basis.
If he were winning 10 games a year, then maybe I could put up with his lying, backstabbing, scapegoating & ridiculous press conferences, but he’s not. He is not a winner. He has taken the Chiefs to 1970′s style losing, and when he lies & contradicts himself in consecutive sentences, it makes me want to throw up in my mouth.
As long as the next coach isn’t a blatant lying douche, I will be happy to get behind him & stay strong & positive through yet another rebuilding season.
Post #12
NCChiefsfan – I like Kool-Aide, but Fig Newtoners is funny.
Post #14
Thanks Dennis!
Post #22
Jeff – Yes, 14 games of 13-10 would be a success for Herm, IN MY OPINION.
Post #25
Nick G. – I never said any players were penciling in wins. I said “everybody & their mom”, meaning the fans, which was also meant to carry over to the next sentence. I should have wrote, “No fans of a 4-12 team”, to eliminate any confusion.
Post #31
FatDaNn – There is a difference between mistakes & incompetency. If we were bandwagon fans, we wouldn’t be here arguing & wasting our time.
Actually, we do have control. When enough people stop going to the games, buying concessions, & giving the Chiefs money, it will hit Clark in the pocketbook, and he will do something about it. I’ll get over it the day Herm is gone.
Post #19, 20, 24
and last and very least, Mr Jake -
As I waded thru yet another never-ending monologue, 3 quotes jumped out at me:
“the typical air head American”
“arrogant Americans”
“By the way, this site is b*llsh*t”
People who say phrases like that are usually conspiracy theorists or members of the “Hate America” crowd, and that kind of talk really bores me. Since we have servicemen from overseas posting here, this isn’t an appropriate place for that crap.
If the site is such BS, I’m glad you post just as much as I do.
So please feel free to burden everyone with more drunken ramblings, but unfortunately I will be skipping them. I have much more important things to do, like cleaning the gunk from between my toes, watching paint dry, & helping African Princes get their money out of their country by giving them my bank account numbers. Good day.
Comment by JD — August 31, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
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j-rock
first off clock management does not mean time of possession, it means what you do with the ball when you have it. multiple times last season with 2 minutes left in the first half, the chiefs would have the ball in our end only to kneel it down to run the clock out for half or play ultra conservative. what i think vltc was talking about was to try to score points when you have the ball rather than to just get into half time with no major mishaps. why not try to go down and score!! take a chance, try to do something or you will have no experience for a 2 minute drill to end the game!! kneeling down or just playing ultra conservitave just dont make sense. i got so mad when they did this last year.
dennis
Comment by dennis — August 31, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
Clock Management has everything to do with time of possession . You want to keep the ball as much as possible to keep your defense fresh for the forth quarter to close out the game. Why do you think people were saying the defense was tired last year. If you noticed most of the RBs were getting most of their yards late in the third and the forth quarter. The offense could not move the ball and convert on 3rd down so the defense had to play a lot of minutes. So now let me ask you. When we play the Patriots on Sunday, do we manage the clock or control the time of possession. If you ask me it sounds like the same thing.
Now why should we try to drive down field in two minutes with the offensive line we had last year. Our line was worse than the Houston Texans when they had David Carr at QB. I would have kneeled too because if he didnt it would have just added to the sack total and gave the other team the ball with good field position and possibly letting them score before half. I could understand if we had Will Shields and Willie Roaf on the O-Line but come on man you have to draw the line somewhere. Not too add how much Solari sucked at calling plays.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — August 31, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
JD
Tom Coughlin also didn’t inherit a broken team Herm did. Oh by the way yes I also will admit I was wrong if Herm is fired for the right reasons.All I am and have been saying is when your rebuilding it takes a long time to do it the right way.Oh I forgot this… takeing the NY JETS 3 times in to the play offs and winning some of the games and then coming to the chiefs and in his first season with a broken team all be it squeaking in going to the play offs but he’s not a winner.
You also said that DV,Marty Bill Parcells took a loosing team and made them winners. By the way you judge a winner only DV took a loosing team and made them winners because they won the superbowl.Marty never won a superbowl and I think Bill Parcells only won superbowls with the Gaints and I think it took him more than 2yrs.
You also said that Herm is let me see if I can quote you correctly “lier, backstabbing, sapegoating,interviews” Please tell me one time he lied or stabbed someone in the back or blamed smeone els. If you do not like or think someone isn’t a good coach that is one think you are entitle to your opinion,but to slander someone because you do not like them make you a very small person and mybe you should go root for the raders be cause you don’t belong as a CHIEFS fan because we are better than that.
Comment by Steve — August 31, 2008 @ 10:50 pm
I’m taking a sign to the KC@SD game……. Herm your a LOSER “get over it” you can always coach the Raiders! GO CHIEFS.
Comment by Rob — September 1, 2008 @ 3:55 am
Steve,
Actually, Tom did take over a broken team with a losing record, and turned it around in one year.
2003. 4-12 Jim Fassel
2004. 6-10 Tom Coughlin
2005. 11-5 Tom Coughlin
The goal of the NFL is to win the Super Bowl, & I expect the Chiefs to make it their priority, but in NO WAY have I ever said the only way I consider someone a winner is if they win the Super Bowl, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.
What I consider a winner is someone who wins more than they lose. In 1988, the Chiefs were 4-11-1. Marty took over & they went 8-7-1 & were in playoff contention.
In 1996, the Jets went 1-15. Parcells took over & the next season they went 9-7 & were in playoff contention.
In 2001, DV took over a 7-9 team, went 6-10 & was 8-8 the next year, with a championship caliber offense already in high gear.
All 3 of those coaches turned a losing team into a winner in 2 years or less, & they did it without complaining about the previous head coach, and they did without saying that their 3rd year was really “their first true year”. They just did it.
You should read my 2007 columns, Herm lied, backstabbed, & scapegoated just about EVERY WEEK, & I documented it. There is a mountain of evidence, & if you don’t believe what I wrote, then go look it up on the Chiefs official site. It’s all there. You don’t need to make things up with Herm.
It’s not slander if it’s true. I call him a liar because he is, not because he is a bad coach. His coaching ability is seperate from his honesty.
If you want specific examples, here are a few random samples:
Before the 2nd SD game,
Herm said cold weather doesn’t bother warm weather teams & cited the ’81 AFC Championship game as proof, since the game went into overtime.
- Completely NOT TRUE in all areas. The game was a blowout (27-7), no overtime, and SD said the weather DID make a difference.
This spring, Herm said the Chiefs were in every game in the 4th quarter, even though it was 41-7 at Denver at the start of the 4th. NOT TRUE.
Herm said the Chiefs lucked out with Jared Allen because he was originally drafted as a long snapper, not defensive end. NOT TRUE. Both Carl & DV have refuted this. Since they were the ones who drafted him, I think they would know.
All year he said the players need to make plays. It wasn’t the coaches fault, the players were prepared, they just didn’t execute. That is scapegoating.
All year he blamed Dick Vermeil, for the current shape of the team, just like you still do now.
There are a ton of examples from just about every week last year. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
Comment by JD — September 1, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
I think it’s pretty funny how the Herm supporters continue to throw out the “You’re Not A True Fan” card, or “Go Be Another Team’s Fan” card, anytime someone dares to say the Emperor has no clothes.
Comment by JD — September 1, 2008 @ 4:23 pm
JD, check this out Here is something to counter your this comment…..
Before the 2nd SD game, Herm said cold weather doesn’t bother warm weather teams & cited the ‘81 AFC Championship game as proof, since the game went into overtime.
- Completely NOT TRUE in all areas. The game was a blowout (27-7), no overtime, and SD said the weather DID make a difference….
Although that statement is true but you have to admit that some teams does make excuses about the weather. It was probably simple mistake because Miami and San Diego did into overtime in the Divisional round of the playoffs. But I have an example for you. Tell me if the weather made the difference here. “The Raiders (sunny California) going to Foxboro (in the snow) to play the Patriots and (IMO) won the game if it wasn’t for the “Tuck Rule” when Brady fumbled after Charles Woodson hit him. Raiders said the weather had nothing to do with the lost. All they complained about is the Tuck Rule.
JD: Herm said the Chiefs lucked out with Jared Allen because he was originally drafted as a long snapper, not defensive end. NOT TRUE. Both Carl & DV have refuted this. Since they were the ones who drafted him, I think they would know….
As for the above comment, look at this link –> http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/?title=born-to-be-wild-jared-allen-has-tried-to&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
JD: This spring, Herm said the Chiefs were in every game in the 4th quarter, even though it was 41-7 at Denver at the start of the 4th. NOT TRUE……
For above comment….Wow one game. Calling a man a liar for not including one game. Herm’s comment probably went something like this, “Last year we were in JUST ABOUT every game so we have to find a way to put more points on the board.”
All year he blamed Dick Vermeil, for the current shape of the team, just like you still do now…..
Dick had us excited with his QUICK FIX offense. We were so blinded by all the points being scored that we didnt see all the players were good but were near the end of their career and not to add some terrible draft picks. So all and all we were built for short term success. Im open to a change. The 90′s Cowboys and 00′s Patriots were being built for long term success and filling in a spot here and there when a player left for free agency. The Cowboys just went through another rebuilding phase with Bill Parcells. In 97 and 98 Colts went through a rebuilding stage when they had Peyton Manning going 3-13 both seasons. In 2000 Chargers went through a rebuilding stage going 1-15. So yes it is Vermeil’s fault with all the terrible draft picks. The only picks that are here from Vermiel’s era is Dustin Colquitt, LJ and DJ. One person I find funny out of all Vermiel’s picks is Julien Battle. I couldn’t believe he asked for a TRADE (only to be cut a few days later) after the team picked up Ty Law from free agency .
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — September 1, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
For those who dont want to read the link, here is a brief part of the link that says he was a long snapper…..
Through it all, his parents kept waiting for their son to become more responsible.
“But it was hard for me to say, ‘Boy, what are you doing?’ because growing up I could be a hellion, too,†Ron Allen said.
The character issue might explain Allen’s draft placement. But as a rookie, he catapulted from possible long snapper to quarterback’s worst nightmare with nine sacks.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — September 1, 2008 @ 8:04 pm
JD, I agree with you. Although, I hope I am wrong, I am a realist and believe the Chiefs are going nowhere. I will however, root for Herm and the Chiefs like I have done since 1969. I imagine, most fans here aren’t old enough to know what it is like to win a superbowl–I am. Win consistantly is probably a team goal, but they only play for one reason (I know your thinking its “We play to win the game”), that reason is to win superbowls. Although the 90s were exciting, they were very disappointing. I am not satisfied with consistancy, I want another superbowl win.
Teams, ocassionally, have to rebuild. But, they don’t make 4 or 5 year plans to do it. Three is max. This is Herms third year. He should show vast improvement this year or he should be gone. Jake mentioned–he’s very long winded by the way–that we should wait 2 or 3 more drafts. With free agency like it is, the players we drafted this year, if any good, will be looking for new contracts by then and will probably leave to go somewhere else, because we won’t be able to pay all of them. We will probably be able to keep the best of them, but most will leave, this is a fact in the NFL. The way to win superbowls is to have the best players, not the youngest. Like I always say, I hope I’m wrong, and I will be the first to admit it if I am. Thats my opinion.
Comment by Jeff from VA — September 1, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
JD, you can slice up these comments up too that you wrote……
Actually, Tom did take over a broken team with a losing record, and turned it around in one year.
2003. 4-12 Jim Fassel
2004. 6-10 Tom Coughlin
2005. 11-5 Tom Coughlin
The goal of the NFL is to win the Super Bowl, & I expect the Chiefs to make it their priority, but in NO WAY have I ever said the only way I consider someone a winner is if they win the Super Bowl, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.
What I consider a winner is someone who wins more than they lose. In 1988, the Chiefs were 4-11-1. Marty took over & they went 8-7-1 & were in playoff contention.
In 1996, the Jets went 1-15. Parcells took over & the next season they went 9-7 & were in playoff contention.
In 2001, DV took over a 7-9 team, went 6-10 & was 8-8 the next year, with a championship caliber offense already in high gear.
All 3 of those coaches turned a losing team into a winner in 2 years or less, & they did it without complaining about the previous head coach, and they did without saying that their 3rd year was really “their first true yearâ€. They just did it.
They took over LOSING teams which is a lot easier to build back up because you are already at the bottom than taking over a winning team with a lot of old players who is on the downside of their careers. When you are taking over a LOSING team, then you already know you will have a high pick the upcoming draft and no one really expect you to do that well in your first season. Kind of like Parcells did the DOLPHINS this year. I still think Vermeil jetted because he knew Willie Roaf and Will Shields was taking about retirement. He knew Preist Holmes was injury prone. He knew the draft picks and defensive free agents that he signed sucked @$$. BTW, why would a coach who is taking over a LOSING team complain about the previous coach. Heck, everyone already know the the players sucked. Now lets take a look at Norv Turner last year. He caught HELL for taking over a 14-2 team and starting off the season on a terrible note with a lot of YOUNG TALENTED players.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — September 2, 2008 @ 7:26 am
FYI, by “clock management” I meant inside the 2-minute warning. Herm is notoriously bad at this, even more so in his Jets days.
As for time of possession, correlation does not infer causality. That is, although higher time of possession may often be correlated with a higher winning percentage, it does not infer that it “caused” the win. There are many other correlations at work. Trying to win the time of possession and expecting everything else to fall into place would be a huge mistake.
For example, you could easily win the time of possession 55-5 by letting the other team score on their first play of every possession… but you’d still lose every time.
As for the other arguments above, i’ll not waste my time. It seems pretty obvious that many of us are highly polarized on the subject of Herm and not willing to accept new information… so what’s the point?
Only 5 more days!
Comment by VLTC — September 2, 2008 @ 10:19 am
Only person I will not support in KC is QUEEN CARLA.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — September 2, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
I don’t understand why some of you equate criticizing Herm/Peterson/Croyle with “hating the chiefs”
That’s just retarded logic – there is nothing wrong with expressing negative opinions with a team that I’ve given thousands of dollars and years of loyalty to.
Get off of your high horse, people – you can love your team and hate the moves they make sometimes.
Comment by MYERS — September 2, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
Well said Myers. Afterall, the comment section of this site would be pretty boring if everything said was positive.
Comment by Jeff from VA — September 2, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
Well said Jeff from VA.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — September 2, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Reply to 37.
Its not necessarily being a Herm supporter that makes me use the ‘true fan’ line. What makes me use it, is you have no control in the decisions they make, so sit back and root for your team. If you want to go by what JD replied to me about and not spend money on them, “hit Clark in the pocket book” to make a change, then do that. You can still watch em on TV, discus what you liked and didn’t like about the games, the coaching, whatever. But arguing, on-line, back and forth about what needs to be done to fix the chiefs isn’t going to change anything at all.
Comment by FatDaNn — September 2, 2008 @ 8:30 pm
FatDaNn…
To me that’s what make this website exciting. For instance. If everyone would agree, then the conversations would be something like this…..
First comment: The Chiefs are going to do alright this year.
Second comment: I agree
Third comment: I agree
Forth comment; I think so too
Fifth comment: Me too
and so on….. catch my drift. So its good to have some people to disagree to make this website and comments worth reading.
But personally I could careless if they support the Chiefs or not. Its all entertainment to me when I come in here to post about my CHEIFS.
Comment by J-Rock in Texas — September 3, 2008 @ 1:03 am
OK GET REID OF QUEEN CARL AND KING HERM NEXT YEAR BRING IN SOME ONE THAT KNOW BOTH OFFENS AND DEFFENS NOW FOR THE REAL RESSEAON I AM LEAVING A MESSAGE HERE OK WHO EVER IS SAYING THE CHIEFS R GOING TO LOSE MOST OF THIER GAMES YOU R SO WRONG THE CHIEF R GOIN TO WIN AND GO 16-O AND DO WHAT THE CHEATING PATS COULD NEVER DO IN THE FRIST PLACE THAT IS WIN THE SUPERBOWL LIKE A REGULER GAME NO CHEATING AT ALL BEACUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS NO ANDS IFS OR BUTS ABOUT IT.
Comment by Michael Diedrich — September 3, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Some great spirited comments by everyone, but let’s pick this up next week.
As I stated in the main column, I think KC has a chance of winning if Brady gets taken out. NE’s back-up is Jonathan Quinn bad, and I can easily a 10-7, or dare I say it, a 13-10 game with both defenses scoring the only TDs.
Herm needs to let Chan be Chan, and be a little aggressive, like in the Bears pre-season game, and Brodie needs to step up, if he still wants to be QB in game 4.
Comment by JD — September 3, 2008 @ 11:16 pm
JD,
I concur. It is doubtful Brady will be able to stay in the whole game having both a foot and shoulder problem. If so, the Chiefs defense must put pressure on the quarterback. Also, the Chiefs offense must not be timid about testing the Patriots suspect secondary and aging linebackers. I think it is conceivable the the Chiefs could win this game if they do not go into hyper conservative mode on offense.
Comment by g.l. — September 4, 2008 @ 7:46 am
L 10-13 @ New England
L 10-13 Oakland
L 10-13 @ Atlanta
L 10-13 Denver
L 10-13 @ Carolina
W 13-10 Tennessee
L 10-13 @ Jets
L 10-13 Tampa
L 10-13 @ San Diego
W 13-10 New Orleans
L 10-13 Buffalo
W 13-10 @ Oakland
L 6-35 @ Denver
W 13-10 San Diego
L 10-13 Miami
L 10-13ot @ Cincinnati
I spewed Dr Pepper on my Keyboard when I read this. Sorry it took so long to see your new stuff JD!
Comment by The_Jonas — September 15, 2008 @ 5:34 pm