I spewed Dr Pepper on my Keyboard when I read this. Sorry it took so long to see your new stuff JD!

I concur. It is doubtful Brady will be able to stay in the whole game having both a foot and shoulder problem. If so, the Chiefs defense must put pressure on the quarterback. Also, the Chiefs offense must not be timid about testing the Patriots suspect secondary and aging linebackers. I think it is conceivable the the Chiefs could win this game if they do not go into hyper conservative mode on offense.

As I stated in the main column, I think KC has a chance of winning if Brady gets taken out. NE’s back-up is Jonathan Quinn bad, and I can easily a 10-7, or dare I say it, a 13-10 game with both defenses scoring the only TDs.

Herm needs to let Chan be Chan, and be a little aggressive, like in the Bears pre-season game, and Brodie needs to step up, if he still wants to be QB in game 4.

PS NO ANDS IFS OR BUTS ABOUT IT.

To me that’s what make this website exciting. For instance. If everyone would agree, then the conversations would be something like this…..

First comment: The Chiefs are going to do alright this year.

Second comment: I agree
Third comment: I agree
Forth comment; I think so too
Fifth comment: Me too
and so on….. catch my drift. So its good to have some people to disagree to make this website and comments worth reading.

But personally I could careless if they support the Chiefs or not. Its all entertainment to me when I come in here to post about my CHEIFS.

Its not necessarily being a Herm supporter that makes me use the ‘true fan’ line. What makes me use it, is you have no control in the decisions they make, so sit back and root for your team. If you want to go by what JD replied to me about and not spend money on them, “hit Clark in the pocket book” to make a change, then do that. You can still watch em on TV, discus what you liked and didn’t like about the games, the coaching, whatever. But arguing, on-line, back and forth about what needs to be done to fix the chiefs isn’t going to change anything at all.

That’s just retarded logic – there is nothing wrong with expressing negative opinions with a team that I’ve given thousands of dollars and years of loyalty to.

Get off of your high horse, people – you can love your team and hate the moves they make sometimes.

As for time of possession, correlation does not infer causality. That is, although higher time of possession may often be correlated with a higher winning percentage, it does not infer that it “caused” the win. There are many other correlations at work. Trying to win the time of possession and expecting everything else to fall into place would be a huge mistake.

For example, you could easily win the time of possession 55-5 by letting the other team score on their first play of every possession… but you’d still lose every time.

As for the other arguments above, i’ll not waste my time. It seems pretty obvious that many of us are highly polarized on the subject of Herm and not willing to accept new information… so what’s the point?

Only 5 more days!

Actually, Tom did take over a broken team with a losing record, and turned it around in one year.

2003. 4-12 Jim Fassel
2004. 6-10 Tom Coughlin
2005. 11-5 Tom Coughlin

The goal of the NFL is to win the Super Bowl, & I expect the Chiefs to make it their priority, but in NO WAY have I ever said the only way I consider someone a winner is if they win the Super Bowl, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.

What I consider a winner is someone who wins more than they lose. In 1988, the Chiefs were 4-11-1. Marty took over & they went 8-7-1 & were in playoff contention.

In 1996, the Jets went 1-15. Parcells took over & the next season they went 9-7 & were in playoff contention.

In 2001, DV took over a 7-9 team, went 6-10 & was 8-8 the next year, with a championship caliber offense already in high gear.

All 3 of those coaches turned a losing team into a winner in 2 years or less, & they did it without complaining about the previous head coach, and they did without saying that their 3rd year was really “their first true year”. They just did it.

They took over LOSING teams which is a lot easier to build back up because you are already at the bottom than taking over a winning team with a lot of old players who is on the downside of their careers. When you are taking over a LOSING team, then you already know you will have a high pick the upcoming draft and no one really expect you to do that well in your first season. Kind of like Parcells did the DOLPHINS this year. I still think Vermeil jetted because he knew Willie Roaf and Will Shields was taking about retirement. He knew Preist Holmes was injury prone. He knew the draft picks and defensive free agents that he signed sucked @$$. BTW, why would a coach who is taking over a LOSING team complain about the previous coach. Heck, everyone already know the the players sucked. Now lets take a look at Norv Turner last year. He caught HELL for taking over a 14-2 team and starting off the season on a terrible note with a lot of YOUNG TALENTED players.

Teams, ocassionally, have to rebuild. But, they don’t make 4 or 5 year plans to do it. Three is max. This is Herms third year. He should show vast improvement this year or he should be gone. Jake mentioned–he’s very long winded by the way–that we should wait 2 or 3 more drafts. With free agency like it is, the players we drafted this year, if any good, will be looking for new contracts by then and will probably leave to go somewhere else, because we won’t be able to pay all of them. We will probably be able to keep the best of them, but most will leave, this is a fact in the NFL. The way to win superbowls is to have the best players, not the youngest. Like I always say, I hope I’m wrong, and I will be the first to admit it if I am. Thats my opinion.

Through it all, his parents kept waiting for their son to become more responsible.

“But it was hard for me to say, ‘Boy, what are you doing?’ because growing up I could be a hellion, too,” Ron Allen said.

The character issue might explain Allen’s draft placement. But as a rookie, he catapulted from possible long snapper to quarterback’s worst nightmare with nine sacks.

Although that statement is true but you have to admit that some teams does make excuses about the weather. It was probably simple mistake because Miami and San Diego did into overtime in the Divisional round of the playoffs. But I have an example for you. Tell me if the weather made the difference here. “The Raiders (sunny California) going to Foxboro (in the snow) to play the Patriots and (IMO) won the game if it wasn’t for the “Tuck Rule” when Brady fumbled after Charles Woodson hit him. Raiders said the weather had nothing to do with the lost. All they complained about is the Tuck Rule.

JD: Herm said the Chiefs lucked out with Jared Allen because he was originally drafted as a long snapper, not defensive end. NOT TRUE. Both Carl & DV have refuted this. Since they were the ones who drafted him, I think they would know….
As for the above comment, look at this link –> http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/?title=born-to-be-wild-jared-allen-has-tried-to&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

JD: This spring, Herm said the Chiefs were in every game in the 4th quarter, even though it was 41-7 at Denver at the start of the 4th. NOT TRUE……

For above comment….Wow one game. Calling a man a liar for not including one game. Herm’s comment probably went something like this, “Last year we were in JUST ABOUT every game so we have to find a way to put more points on the board.”

All year he blamed Dick Vermeil, for the current shape of the team, just like you still do now…..

Dick had us excited with his QUICK FIX offense. We were so blinded by all the points being scored that we didnt see all the players were good but were near the end of their career and not to add some terrible draft picks. So all and all we were built for short term success. Im open to a change. The 90′s Cowboys and 00′s Patriots were being built for long term success and filling in a spot here and there when a player left for free agency. The Cowboys just went through another rebuilding phase with Bill Parcells. In 97 and 98 Colts went through a rebuilding stage when they had Peyton Manning going 3-13 both seasons. In 2000 Chargers went through a rebuilding stage going 1-15. So yes it is Vermeil’s fault with all the terrible draft picks. The only picks that are here from Vermiel’s era is Dustin Colquitt, LJ and DJ. One person I find funny out of all Vermiel’s picks is Julien Battle. I couldn’t believe he asked for a TRADE (only to be cut a few days later) after the team picked up Ty Law from free agency .

Actually, Tom did take over a broken team with a losing record, and turned it around in one year.

2003. 4-12 Jim Fassel
2004. 6-10 Tom Coughlin
2005. 11-5 Tom Coughlin

The goal of the NFL is to win the Super Bowl, & I expect the Chiefs to make it their priority, but in NO WAY have I ever said the only way I consider someone a winner is if they win the Super Bowl, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.

What I consider a winner is someone who wins more than they lose. In 1988, the Chiefs were 4-11-1. Marty took over & they went 8-7-1 & were in playoff contention.

In 1996, the Jets went 1-15. Parcells took over & the next season they went 9-7 & were in playoff contention.

In 2001, DV took over a 7-9 team, went 6-10 & was 8-8 the next year, with a championship caliber offense already in high gear.

All 3 of those coaches turned a losing team into a winner in 2 years or less, & they did it without complaining about the previous head coach, and they did without saying that their 3rd year was really “their first true year”. They just did it.

You should read my 2007 columns, Herm lied, backstabbed, & scapegoated just about EVERY WEEK, & I documented it. There is a mountain of evidence, & if you don’t believe what I wrote, then go look it up on the Chiefs official site. It’s all there. You don’t need to make things up with Herm.

It’s not slander if it’s true. I call him a liar because he is, not because he is a bad coach. His coaching ability is seperate from his honesty.

If you want specific examples, here are a few random samples:

Before the 2nd SD game,
Herm said cold weather doesn’t bother warm weather teams & cited the ’81 AFC Championship game as proof, since the game went into overtime.
- Completely NOT TRUE in all areas. The game was a blowout (27-7), no overtime, and SD said the weather DID make a difference.

This spring, Herm said the Chiefs were in every game in the 4th quarter, even though it was 41-7 at Denver at the start of the 4th. NOT TRUE.

Herm said the Chiefs lucked out with Jared Allen because he was originally drafted as a long snapper, not defensive end. NOT TRUE. Both Carl & DV have refuted this. Since they were the ones who drafted him, I think they would know.

All year he said the players need to make plays. It wasn’t the coaches fault, the players were prepared, they just didn’t execute. That is scapegoating.

All year he blamed Dick Vermeil, for the current shape of the team, just like you still do now.

There are a ton of examples from just about every week last year. Look it up if you don’t believe me.

Tom Coughlin also didn’t inherit a broken team Herm did. Oh by the way yes I also will admit I was wrong if Herm is fired for the right reasons.All I am and have been saying is when your rebuilding it takes a long time to do it the right way.Oh I forgot this… takeing the NY JETS 3 times in to the play offs and winning some of the games and then coming to the chiefs and in his first season with a broken team all be it squeaking in going to the play offs but he’s not a winner.

You also said that DV,Marty Bill Parcells took a loosing team and made them winners. By the way you judge a winner only DV took a loosing team and made them winners because they won the superbowl.Marty never won a superbowl and I think Bill Parcells only won superbowls with the Gaints and I think it took him more than 2yrs.

You also said that Herm is let me see if I can quote you correctly “lier, backstabbing, sapegoating,interviews” Please tell me one time he lied or stabbed someone in the back or blamed smeone els. If you do not like or think someone isn’t a good coach that is one think you are entitle to your opinion,but to slander someone because you do not like them make you a very small person and mybe you should go root for the raders be cause you don’t belong as a CHIEFS fan because we are better than that.

j-rock

first off clock management does not mean time of possession, it means what you do with the ball when you have it. multiple times last season with 2 minutes left in the first half, the chiefs would have the ball in our end only to kneel it down to run the clock out for half or play ultra conservative. what i think vltc was talking about was to try to score points when you have the ball rather than to just get into half time with no major mishaps. why not try to go down and score!! take a chance, try to do something or you will have no experience for a 2 minute drill to end the game!! kneeling down or just playing ultra conservitave just dont make sense. i got so mad when they did this last year.

dennis

Comment by dennis — August 31, 2008 @ 12:56 pm

Clock Management has everything to do with time of possession . You want to keep the ball as much as possible to keep your defense fresh for the forth quarter to close out the game. Why do you think people were saying the defense was tired last year. If you noticed most of the RBs were getting most of their yards late in the third and the forth quarter. The offense could not move the ball and convert on 3rd down so the defense had to play a lot of minutes. So now let me ask you. When we play the Patriots on Sunday, do we manage the clock or control the time of possession. If you ask me it sounds like the same thing.

Now why should we try to drive down field in two minutes with the offensive line we had last year. Our line was worse than the Houston Texans when they had David Carr at QB. I would have kneeled too because if he didnt it would have just added to the sack total and gave the other team the ball with good field position and possibly letting them score before half. I could understand if we had Will Shields and Willie Roaf on the O-Line but come on man you have to draw the line somewhere. Not too add how much Solari sucked at calling plays.