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Rookie Carr to Start in Place of Surtain
September 17th, 2008 @ 7:18 am; ChiefsWarpath.com
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[Topeka Capital-Journal] A shoulder injury sustained against the Raiders will keep veteran left corner Pat Surtain out of Sunday’s game, meaning the Chiefs will have two rookies at their starting corner positions.

Brandon Carr, Kansas City’s fifth-round draft pick out of Division II power Grand Valley State, will start his second NFL game, but first in regular defense. Carr, KC’s third cornerback in the nickel defense, opened the New England game when the Chiefs came out in a three-corner defense.

“We anticipated this might happen sometime this year,” Edwards said of playing two rookie corners. “This makes us the youngest secondary in the league (with two third-year safeties), but the good part is, these guys will be playing together for a long time.”



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    18 Comments
    1. thats great they will be playing together for a long time. but that means nothing, right now they are gonna get recognized as the youngest and get tested hard. and as soon as one of them excells we will give them up for another draft pick or because they dont want to sign back on to another losing season. so how long are they really going to be playing together “werm”

      Comment by chris b — September 17, 2008 @ 9:31 am


    2. Better get a pass rush from the front four. Blitzing could make things worse.

      Comment by David C — September 17, 2008 @ 9:41 am


    3. maybe since matt ryan and glen dorsey aren’t friends dorsey might takle someone this sunday

      Comment by chris b — September 17, 2008 @ 9:52 am


    4. ok ive set back as long as i can hope i dont get banned for this lmfao im tired of hearing all you so called chiefs fans talkin shit on this page i know its a place for release of frustation but if you dont like how things are going with this new team then find a new one and quit crying to all who that have bashed us for the dirrection were going and with all this advice why arent you making the big bucks as a head coach or a gm

      FIND ANOTHER TEAM IF YOU DONT LIKE THE DIRECTION THE CHIEFS OR GOING

      Comment by apachepride — September 17, 2008 @ 12:23 pm


    5. apachepride i am a die hard chiefs fan but i would like to explain to you why people have negative nancy aditudes the only direction the chiefs are going right now IS FOR THE 2009 FIRST OVERALL PICK everyone is frustrated cuz we dont have a QB (the most important position) and glenn dorsey so far has really sucked so right now things aren’t looking any better than last year there looking worse people are frustarted becasue it looks like THE DIRECTION THE CHIEFS ARE GOING IS DOWN THE CRAPPER

      Comment by mike41 — September 17, 2008 @ 2:25 pm


    6. Honestly apachepride how can anyone like the direction this team is headed? The youth movement thing sounds great, but they need to figure out a way to get young AND WIN, other teams have done it. How can you even say that you like what you have seen these past 2 weeks? 9 points a game thats what we are averaging this is’nt baseball it’s football 9 points will get you nothing except a big L. It’s a shame that you actually believe the absolute crap that Herm has to say on a weekly basis. That said there is one Herm Edwards stat that has particularly stood out to me since we hired his sorry ass, Do you remember the very first game of the 05 season when we played the Jets? We pretty much shut them out 27-0 but we gave up a go ahead touchdown late in the fourth. Now why in the hell would management at the end of that season say HEY we need that loser that we kicked the crap out of week 1 as our head coach? Herm is not the right coach for anything and every decesion he makes is wrong, sorry I’m not a fan of watching the team that I love go down the shitter because of some washed up cornerback that thinks he knows everything about the NFL

      Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — September 17, 2008 @ 2:29 pm


    7. …….and also on a sidenote is Herm like a child molester or something or maybe a registered sex offender? Because honestly his thing with young men is starting to get a little weird.

      Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — September 17, 2008 @ 2:51 pm


    8. i am everything chiefs, and i am not gonna get over it like apachepride and herm want me to do. this is my team, give me a chance and Ill coach it better than anyone but gunther right now. i play enough madden, and have watched every game since i was in grade school (30 right now)thats more film than edwards has obviously watched, kinda makes me more qualified. no matter what i will be watching every sunday waiting for the turn around, but clark and apachepride need to get over the frustrated fans talk and do something about it.

      Comment by chris b — September 17, 2008 @ 3:19 pm


    9. Im so glad everyones seeing the light now. Theres just a few more that dont (apachepride), but they will in time.

      Comment by Jones — September 17, 2008 @ 4:00 pm


    10. You guys are fucking ignorant? you talk about 0-11 but those loses came with different teams then you talk about 05 a team that went 10-6 with the two best rushers in the league with one of the best lines in history. The fact we only won 10 games that year is a shock. There is no one in free agency that could help us win the most games over the next five years then the players we have. In the NFL it is all about development. Few players come out of college and actually play let alone start or make plays. If they do it usually is another teams mistake more than that players excellence.

      If you knew anything about life you would know that nothing is what it appears. Do you really think that you could do a better job than Herm. I know you couldn’t because you don’t know anything about life or the NFL. Who gives a fuck we lost two games like that’s new. We are developing and just because we lose does not mean we are not growing. The next person who says we are 0-11 is a douch bag and needs to go cry on his mothers shoulder until he finds something to live for, other than thinking he’s cool for starting a stupid “I hate my coach” trend. Grow up for real. I got more balls and brains to understand that you have to earn your place in this world and all you fuckers are earning is place on the couch with no friends cause they hate listening to you bitch and whine all the time.

      I don’t care how many stats you can pull out of your ass about Herm has done this or that or Carl sucks as a GM. You don’t know the first thing about business if think Carl is a shitty GM. I don’t play the what if game unlike you children. We have no quarterback on the team that has proven themselves to be a starter. Yes Damon is now .500 as a starter with 9 wins on a team very different than the one that suited up on Sunday. It does not help us to play Damon right now. He will probably not be on the team next year whether we win a championship or not. We are building a team right now. It is not your job to pick players get them signed teach them pro football, and call plays. It is your job to be a fan if you so choose. I have found there is only a small percentage of you that I would even come close to calling real fans and you know who you are. Thinking that because you rooted for the chiefs when they played sloppy football this decade does not make you fan so shut up and say something positive.

      I understand your pain on the whole not getting your money’s worth for tickets, but thats the price you pay when you sign on for a team in construction. Thinking that somehow if you get enough people to ask for Herm to leave that it will happen, well just look at Pres. Bush He has broken every law in the book and has millions of people who save a stray dog’s life before his, but he still continues to speak absolute crap and while making billions if not trillions for his friends. You can’t change anything except yourself, and I feel sorry for you that all you wanna do with the energy you put into this organization is negative.

      Comment by Jake — September 17, 2008 @ 5:27 pm


    11. I won’t apologize for the typos its a blog not a book!!!!!!!

      Your supposed to give passion and new ideas not rhetoric or the same old shit.

      Comment by Jake — September 17, 2008 @ 5:31 pm


    12. In Dan Aykroyd’s famous words, Jake you ignorant slut!!!(actualy it was “Jane” but for this purpose “Jake” fits so well) Just because your rebuilding, (which was never mentioned before the end of last year) does not by any means, mean that you have to have sole possession of last place in the NFL. I have been wondering when you would post your stupid comments again. If you cant see the writing on the wall you are either blind or just plain ignorant!! Hermeroid has sucked worse and worse every year he is a coach. He DOES NOT WANY TO WIN!!!!! Evidence is putting that piece of crap thigpen in as our starter. We are real fans, most of us on here have been loyal chiefs fans since before you were crapping in your diapers. We are just fed up with all the lip service about where we are at and where we will be after they evaluate our players. THATS WHAT LOOSERS SAY!!! There is NO excuse for the way we are playing PERIOD!!!! Even Vermiel would say HE did not have the players ready. Name ONE time in Hermeroids tenure that he took the blame for anything! Herm needs to be gone PERIOD!! If he was a real man and head coach he would turn in his resignation just for putting the Chiefs orginization through the embarrassment that he has already. We got killed by the RAIDERS for christ sake. You have been posting on here all summer about how we will kick ass when the season starts. Then where is the ass kicking we are doing?? Have I been missing something?? We suck and we dont have to suck. Good NFL teams develop players AS THEY ARE WINNING!! I totally agree with you that this is a different team than in 2005, we were good then and could compete. Hermeroid has chosen HIS team and look where we are now!! We have 4 QB’s on our roster and a RB that we used as quartergack for a couple of plays last game. How smart is that?? We only have 4 running backs. Tell me another team in the NFL that has 4 1/2 quarterbacks (i use this term loosely)??? So why dont you STFU and hop back into your highchair and get spoonfed more of Hermeroid’s B.S.

      Real Chiefs fans are not shy about saying enough is enough!!

      Comment by dennis — September 17, 2008 @ 11:45 pm


    13. dennis is right, how much does herm get paid? he is not earning it, what developments has he made. he has the true fans more fired up way more than his players. i’ve played enough football to know that it is not rocket science….granted you are also right jake i havent played NFL, but fuck this isn’t politics, just straight up football…smash someone and get fired up, “play to win the game”. you learn alot more when you want to be there, the only thing herm has these athletes doing is playing for another draftpick, which is not the goal in the NFL. if that is what you are wanting curl back up in your fetal position and root for the lions

      Comment by chris b — September 18, 2008 @ 8:29 am


    14. THIS COMMENT IS FOR APACHEPRIDE,,,COMMENT#4,,,,
      YES,,,I DON’T LIKE WHERE THE CHIEFS ARE GOING NOR AM I HAPPY WITH ANYTHING THEY HAVE DONE OR I’VE SEEN. SURE,,,AM I HAPPY THAT THEY DRAFTED WHO THEY DID AND HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SOME GOOD THINGS THERE,,,,YES,,,HOWEVER,,YOU CANNOT TELL ME YOUR HAPPY WITH WHAT THERE DOING OR WHERE THEY ARE GOING,,,THE PLAY CALLING SUCKS BEYOND F*#KING WORDS AND THE COACHING IS FLAT SH*#TY AT BEST AND AS A LIFELONG CHIEFS FAN,,,I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ABSOLUTELY “PISSED AND DISGUSTED” WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AND WITH WHAT I AM SEEING,,,AND I THINK ALL CHIEFS FANS DO AND SHOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY!!!THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE ON EVERY LEVEL AND IT’S TIME THAT CHIEFS FANS STAND UP MORE THAN EVER AND DEMAND SOME SERIOUS CHANGES,,,,SO DO NOT TELL ME THAT IF I’M NOT HAPPY WITH WHERE THE CHIEFS ARE AND ARE GOING,,,TO FIND ANOTHER TEAM,,,PERIOD!!!THE CHIEFS ARE MY TEAM AND THAT IS WHY I SO PASSIONATELY AM STANDING UP AND MAKING NOISE AND DEMANDING IMMEDIATE CHANGE SO WE CAN GET BACK TO HAPPY TIMES AND WINNING TRADITIONS!!!!WHY DON’T YOU TRY THE SAME!!!SINCERELY AND RESPECTFULLY

      Comment by JIM S. — September 18, 2008 @ 12:14 pm


    15. “”WAY TO GO NCCHIEFSFAN & MIKE 41″”
      THATS WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT,,,,SEE APACHEPRIDE,,,REAL CHIEFS FANS STAND UP AND BE HEARD,,,THATS WHAT WE DO,,,,GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER LIKE THE REST OF US AND DEMAND CHANGE NOW WITH OUR CHIEFS!!!I WOULD’NT BE SURPRISED IF ON SUNDAYS,,,WHEN WE ALL WEAR OUR GONZALEZ JERSIES,,,,AND YOUR WEARING A “”"HERM SHIRT”"” WAY TO GO DENNIS TOO,,,YOU SAID IT ALL AS WELL,,,,IT’S NICE TO KNOW THAT WE ALL FEEL THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE INDIAN ON VILLAGE PEOPLE,,,”"APACHEPRIDE”",,HERMIES BEST FRIEND!!!WAY TO GO GUYS,,YOU ALL ROCK!!!JIM S.(VEGAS STYLE)

      Comment by JIM S. — September 18, 2008 @ 12:30 pm


    16. you fucking redneck jim s you wanna bash me for being indian your hard as hell talking shit over a blog i never said i liked loosing you guys are gonna make a big change crying on a blog see if it gets herm fired or carl whatever your motives are we you can rant and rave all you want but it aint gonna change shit you have no ability to do or if you did you would be in the nfl right got something else you wanna say about me being indian i live in wichita ks hit me up YOU FUCKING PUSSY

      Comment by apachepride — September 18, 2008 @ 2:16 pm


    17. OHHHHHH,,,FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCKER APACHEPRIDE,,,,,
      IF YOU WISH TO MAKE IT A PERSONAL THING THAN WE WILL,,,I’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EVERYONE BANNING TOGETHER TO CALL FOR CHANGE WITH THIS SHITTY COACHING STAFF,,,AND INCASE YOU HAVE’NT READ EVERYONE ELSE’S COMMENTS AS WELL,,,THEY SEEM TO AGREE WITH ME,,,,PULL YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR WICHITA ASS AND STAND UP FOR REAL CHIEFS TRADITION WITH THE REST OF US WHO ARE JUST FED UP WITH THIS UNACCEPTABLE SHITTY PLAY CALLING AND COACHING THAT AT THIS LEVEL,,,SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THE NFL AND ONLY ALLOWED IN POP WARNER YOUTH FOOTBALL. I AM ALSO INDIAN WITH LAKOTA SIOUX IN MY FAMILY AND WOULD NEVER DISRESPECT THAT WITH ANYONE’S HERITAGE,,,,SO ATLEAST I AM HEAR TO HAVE MY VOICE HEARD AND SPEAK LOUDLY OF THE UNACCEPTABLE HORRIFIC DISPLAY OF PLAY CALLING AND COACHING AND STAND UP FOR WHATS RIGHT,,,WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO SUCK HERMS AND GM CARLS ASS AND LETS SEE WHERE THAT GETS YOU,,,,MAYBE ANOTHER DECADE OF SUCKING HUMILIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Comment by JIM S. — September 18, 2008 @ 4:43 pm


    18. your the shit starter your the one talkin shit about me be native quote(EXCEPT FOR THE INDIAN ON VILLAGE oh and HERMIES BEST FRIEND so im not the one WOULD’NT BE SURPRISED IF ON SUNDAYS,,,WHEN WE ALL WEAR OUR GONZALEZ JERSIES,,,,AND YOUR WEARING A “””HERM SHIRT””if thats not you talking shit on me then what is it and it wasnt personal until your indian quote

      Comment by apachepride — September 18, 2008 @ 5:05 pm


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