[FOX Sports] Tony Gonzalez thought sure that his days as the Chiefs tight end were over.
But after the NFL’s trading deadline came and went and the future Hall Of Famer wasn’t moved, he was wrought with a variety of emotions from disappointment to anger to trying to cope with damage caused by his trade request. But more than anything, there’s confusion.
“I’m shocked,” he said in an exclusive interview with FOXSports.com. “It didn’t make sense not to do this deal. It’s winding down for me and this team is rebuilding. If they said from the get-go, ‘No, we’re not going to trade you,’ that would’ve been better than how this whole thing unfolded. But that’s not what happened.
“Last night I talked to Carl (Peterson, Chiefs President and GM) and I point-blank asked him what it would take to get it done. I wanted to know if it could happen with a fourth (-round pick). He started talking about a second and a fifth like the Shockey deal. Nobody is going to trade a second for a 32-year-old tight end. All along Carl said he would do something that works for both parties. Then he talked about how he traded a third for Willie Roaf, and he made it pretty clear to me that’s what was going to get it done. That was certainly fair.
“I know teams offered a third and in the end, Carl made the asking price a second. I’m very disappointed that he didn’t go through with it after he told me he was going to try to make it happen. I’ve been around this league a long time, it’s a business. There’s nothing I can do about it. I was pissed off about it, but I’ll get over it. I won’t let it affect my play and my preparation.”
Freakin Carl Peterson is an @$$!!!!!!! Unbelievable.
Comment by Glen — October 15, 2008 @ 8:13 am
Tony G should retire, sit out a year (I think that is how long he has to be gone to be free of any obligation to the Chiefs) submit for reinstatement and go to the team of his choice leaving the Chiefs with a big, fat pile of nothing in the end. I (We) have been patient with Carls antics for too long. Replace failure, Replace Carl.
Comment by brad — October 15, 2008 @ 8:35 am
I really hope that the latest chapter in Carl Peterson’s failure autobiography goes a long way in getting him out of here. For the first time all of the talk radio stations are pointing out Carl’s inability to manage this team and how he is more of an impediment to progress than a valuable decision maker. One radio host even said that if you used a chimpanzee in the place of Carl and put a “Yes” banana and a “No” banana in front of it, the chimp would be just as successful at making decisions.
Personally, I think the chimp would be better.
Can’t wait to cheer for Tony on Sunday.
Comment by JMN — October 15, 2008 @ 8:50 am
You know I have mixed feelings! I’m sad that our team got so crappy that Tony asked to be traded, and seeing him play for some other team would really suck! With that being said, I would love to see TG get a ring I think he deserves it, I think what Herm did in the Denver game (not letting him get the 3 YARDS HE NEEDED) was appauling. And to be honest if he did go somewhere else I would have been pulling for them to win it all, heck I would have bought a TG Giants jersey or who ever. I think CP is not an honest man I think he lied to TG just to shut him up. And guys I still say that it all goes back to ownership, Clark needs to get rid of these guys if not now then by the end of the year.
Comment by Michael Raite — October 15, 2008 @ 9:27 am
Tony should just sit out the rest of the year.
Comment by kcchiefs19692003 — October 15, 2008 @ 9:43 am
Prime example on how Carl &*#$@% his players.
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Comment by kcchiefs19692003 — October 15, 2008 @ 9:46 am
tony is the greatest chief of all-time that worthless piece of shit Carl Peterson should of done the right thing for tony and let him go to a winner, instead of wasting his time on the god-awful team that Clark hunt and he put together.AS CHIEFS FANS MABY WE NEED TO START PROTESTING IN FRONT OF ARROWHEAD TO FIRE CARL PETERSON.(WHERE ARE YOU CLARK HUNT?)
Comment by Chris — October 15, 2008 @ 9:46 am
Chris,
It’s not Carl’s job to do the right thing for Tony. That would be an AGENT. Carl’s job is to do the right thing for the Chiefs.
And you asked where Clark was. He’s in Dallas.
Go Chiefs
Comment by chfsfan — October 15, 2008 @ 10:27 am
I love Tony G and selfishly I’m glad he’s staying because I believe he is the greatest TE in the history of the NFL and I’m a die-hard Chiefs fan, but I am outraged that CP did this to him! It’s total BS. Tony deserves a ring and honestly I’m not sure the Chiefs will make it to the big game before he’s on the decline. And Carl is a jack@$$ for giving him false hope about the trade. Like TG said, he should have been honest about his intentions from the beginning. That was just low-down, dirty pool.
Comment by Jeni — October 15, 2008 @ 10:39 am
Trade a HOF/best TE ever for a third-rounder. I’m not a Carl fan by any means but this was a smart move. Chiefs fan 4 life!!!
Comment by Nathan — October 15, 2008 @ 11:02 am
I say we start a protest going on this website to fire Herman Edwards and Carl Peterson. Every day all of us Chiefs fans should come online and ask for Edwards and Peterson’s resignation. Maybe if we voice our opinions enough than will get our wish. We as the fans need to stand up and make our voice heard. I will come on everyday from here on and voice my protest for Edwards and Peterson. I hope all of you diehard chiefs fans are with me. If I can start a blog than I will so that I can continue this protest and see if we can build a following. I am very serious about this and I hope that all you fans that care about the chiefs will follow my lead and help guide our team in the right direction.
Comment by Chiefsfan36 — October 15, 2008 @ 11:05 am
Chiefsfan36,
Good luck with that and thanks for the chuckle. I’m sure Clark Hunt will be anxiously awaiting a link to your new blog. Because owners REALLY listen to the fans.
Let’s say for a minute that Clark Hunt reads this site. Which fans should he listen to? The ones that say they are “HAPPY” that Tony didn’t get traded, or the ones that are “UNHAPPY”?
Go Chiefs
Comment by chfsfan — October 15, 2008 @ 11:13 am
I don’t blame Tony for wanting out. I also don’t blame the Chiefs for not throwing him away for a 2nd day pick that more than likely won’t help the team much, if at all.
However, I do blame management for creating the sinking ship that made Tony want to bail in the first place.
Comment by VLTC — October 15, 2008 @ 11:16 am
That is the problem with the sports fans out there today (chfsfan). They are afraid to voice their opinions and stand up for what they believe in. I have been a diehard cheifs fan for over 10 years and know everything about this team. I know what they need to do to win consistantly and it all starts with Management and coaching. Right now we have neither and that is obvious to any fan or any person who is watching the Chiefs. The only thing to chuckle at is how bad this team has become and how obvious the problems are. To be honest I don’t care if Clark Hunt ever reads what I wrote or cares what I have to say but it has to be said. This is how I feel and as a true sports fan I have no fear to voice my opinion. Someone has to be a real fan and step up to the plate to say what is right. You can’t be afraid of all the yuppies out there who just watch sports and know nothing about what they are watching. And yes if you see or read something enough than you have to pay attention to it especially if your the owner.
Comment by Chiefsfan36 — October 15, 2008 @ 11:36 am
Um, One think I’m CERTAIN of, there is absolutely NO shortage of opinions as you say. From the message boards I read, I don’t see a fear of posting opinions either. Everyone has one. And thanks to the internet, anyone can post their ideas and opinions. But as the old adage goes, opinions are like @$$holes…everyone has one and most of them stink.
But like I asked. Which fans should Clark listen too? I mean you can read replies to articles on this website or check out other Chiefs websites and EVERYONE including you, by your own admission, claims to know exactly what to do to win consistently. Most of those ideas conflict with each other. Not everyone can agree on one sure fire method.
WOW. Most people insinuate that they know everything and offer ideas but stop short of claiming they know precisely. Are you claiming that you could turn this franchise into Super Bowl contenders?
Because buddy if you can, submit your resume to the Hunts. The Chiefs are looking for a guy like you. But don’t limit yourself to the Chiefs. I’m sure there are 31 other NFL teams that would like to interview you.
Hey, I got an idea…you could BUY the Chiefs. I’d help, but I got turned down for my billion dollar loan. Something about my credit score not being high enough for a Billion Dollars.
Good Luck to you.
Go Chiefs
Comment by chfsfan — October 15, 2008 @ 11:59 am
I think a billion dollars might be a little high for the chiefs. I think I have about $20 on me and that might be pushing it. But Seriously, I love the chiefs and will always no matter how bad they are. However, it is too obvious to ignore that there is a problem with this team and ownership. When we had Dick Vermil we were competitive, when we had Marty we were even more competitive and Know that we have Herman Edwards we are a laughing stock. Since Herman Edwards has come in we have seen to lowest offensive output since 1986 and no sign of it getting better. We went from a playoff caliber team to a team that picks first in the draft. We seen some of our best players leave or retire a year after Edwards joins the chiefs. We almost lost our best player ever in Tony Gonzalez becuase we can’t win to save our lives. So you tell me what has to change to make this team better right away. It starts with a coaching change and it is that simple. It’s not rocket science. And if they are offering up the coaching position for the chiefs than I think I will apply for the job because anyone with half a brain could coach this team better then Edwards is. Don’t be surprised if we go onto the Superbowl. Was Superbowl Champ in my fantasy league last year (lol). Anyone who played football could recognize that Edwards system isn’t working for the Chiefs. Of course everyone has their own opinion about how to fix the problem with the chiefs but all of us diehard chiefs fans know that the problem starts with Herman Edwards. I just want to see the Chiefs get better and in my humble opinion we need a coaching change. I think we all want the same thing and that is for the Chiefs to get better. I am not trying to turn this into a battle cry but I am very passionate about the chiefs and have a great knowledge of the game. Sometimes to get what you want you have to be passionate about it and not care what other people think. Even though everyone has there own opinion just like @$$holes; we should respect that fact and not be one minded. Go Chiefs.
Comment by Chiefsfan36 — October 15, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
Well to be honest, not EVERYONE agrees that the problem begins with Herm Edwards. A percentage believe that the main problem is Carl Peterson. Yet another group believes that it’s Both.
History proves that this team will NOT get better right away. Personally, I’m a patient man. Not to get into another argument about “when” the rebuild started, (I believe that the true break down of the team happened this year), but I think Herm’s plan of getting rid of a bunch of aging guys and bringing in the new is a proven method of building a winner.
Personally, I can live with 1-15 this year. I’d expect 7-9 or better in 2009, then an 11-12 win season and the playoffs in 2010.
Is Herm the guy to pull it off? I don’t know. But I don’t think we will know until the end of 2009.
Comment by chfsfan — October 15, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
THE PROBLEM STARTS WITH OWNERSHIP. IT IS OWNERSHIP THAT HIRED AND IS KEEPING CP, AND IT IS OWNERSHIP THAT LET CP HIRE HERM. OWNERSHIP GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CLARK HUNT NEEDS TO PULL THE PLUG ON PETERSON. SOMETHING HIS FATHER SHOULD HAVE DONE. AND WHEN CP GOES HOPEFULLY SO WILL HERM.
Comment by Michael Raite — October 15, 2008 @ 1:55 pm
Chfsfan,
Get over yourself. You’ve been peddling that “Why don’t you coach/own the team if you’re so smart” in just about every post. That argument is weak, holds no merit & sounds like something my 5 year old would say.
If my car doesn’t start, I don’t need to be a mechanic to judge the quality of workmanship of the mechanic who worked on it, I don’t need to be a chef to comment on food, and so on. And I don’t need to be a pro coach to judge that Herm is incompetent.
You say Herm’s method is a proven winner, yet while he stands 1-13, Atlanta & Miami keep winning.
All the KC fans are still waiting for the great “Chfsfan” to explain why Atlanta & Miami can get good right away but Herm needs 3 years.
You can’t can you?
You also don’t have any witty commentary for Herm having 3 of the 7 worst losses in KC history, as well as a record 12 game losing streak.
Herm said the LAST YEAR was the beginning of rebuilding. Don’t you believe what Herm himself says?
You say Herm’s plan is a proven winner, yet you don’t know if he’s the guy to pull it off? Ok.
You don’t know if Herm’s the guy, yet you want to give him 3 years? That’s really smart, giving 3 years to a guy you have no confidence in.
I haven’t heard this kind of double-talk nonsense since the last Rufus Dawes babbling, or a Herm press conference.
But you sure know how to jump in here and judge all of us, don’t you?
Comment by JD — October 15, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
Chiefsfan36
And there ya go…Michael chimes in with a 4th opinion. See…fans can’t even agree on what the problem is. So again, even if Clark read the fan’s opinions, which one’s would he listen too?
That is precisely why Clark, Carl and people in the organization will NEVER listen to fans.
Now I would guess that they probably have a staff that monitors public opinion. And I’m sure Clark probably gets briefed on the state of the public opinion on occasion. But it is doubtful he is going to listen to fans about how to run the team. (not that he needs someone to tell him that his team sucks)
Chiefsfan36, I get the impression that you have probably coached at some point, whether it be on a youth level or higher. And if you have, you know that even at that level, you can’t even listen to parents. You have to do what you know how to do and hope it’s the right decision. You’re NEVER going to make everyone happy. Bottom line is this. Clark, Carl, and Herm are ALL in the spotlight in a leadership role. They know that they will NEVER make all the people happy all the time. EVERY move they make will be criticized by someone. It goes with the territory.
I bet if you searched hard enough you could probably find someone, somewhere probably criticized the 1972 Miami Dolphins. And THEY had a PERFECT SEASON!
Comment by chfsfan — October 15, 2008 @ 2:28 pm
No JD, I can’t tell you why Miami and Atlanta just “keep winning”. Did Miami win this past week? I must have missed something there. hummm…i just checked the standings and i found them where I found the Chiefs…dead last at the bottom of their division. Atlanta…..tied for first. There doing something right down there in Atlanta.
JD, I’m not convinced that he’s NOT the guy either. I don’t claim to be the expert. That’s you. I’m just a poor working schmoe that works his 9-5 (actually it’s like 6:30-4:00) but you get the point.
Personally, I can’t STAND Carl Peterson. I’m not as smart as you, but I’m smart enough to know this. Carl Peterson doesn’t give a RAT’S ASS what I think about him.
Don’t you think that if you have thought of a way to “fix” this problem, that they have probably already come up with that same idea?
Comment by chfsfan — October 15, 2008 @ 2:41 pm
If I had my way. GM- Marty schottenheimer Coach-Bill Cowher
Or Vice Versa.
Comment by Nathan — October 15, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
Tony deserves a ring, but selfishly i’m so glad he isn’t leaving. Seeing him play for New York or any other team would kill me. I’m glad he’s still a Chief. But I do know he deserves a ring and a better team, but you can’t want out when it’s not going well… that’s kind of a Randy Moss attitude, but not really cause he still plays hard when Randy Moss quit on the Raiders when they were doing bad. Tony should just stay a Chief forever and play 3 more years hoping by that time we are up and contending again.
Comment by Noah — October 15, 2008 @ 3:19 pm
Why would CP hold on to this one after letting T.Rich, J.Allen, and other bigs names go when obviously they were good players and fan favorites….what a chump
Comment by FatDaNn — October 15, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
You know what, I’m tired of everybody talking about how Tony deserves a ring. We all know he does but there has been many great football players not to have a ring but that doesn’t take away from the fact that when they played, they were great. Some of those players that come to mind Barry Sanders. Argubly the greatest running back in history and he played for a shitty ass team and that being of course the Detroit Lions. Dan Marino, another one. He has been called the greatest Quarterback not to have a Superbowl ring. He made his mark on the field just as Barry Sanders has and Tony Gonzalez. Just because you don’t win a Superbowl ring doesn’t take away the fact that you are or were a great player so stop acting like if he doesn’t get a ring that makes him any less a great football player.
Comment by Stich — October 15, 2008 @ 4:40 pm
Listen to us–we’re mad that Tony didn’t get traded. What has happened to our team, that we are mad that our favorite player DIDN’T get traded? It doesn’t seem right does it?
With that said, I am mad too. Tony deserves it, even more than us fans. He has busted his ass and is the greatest TE ever! Hope he will retire as a Chief for us fans.
Comment by Jeff in VA — October 15, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
Right on JD. Some people have to be know it alls and criticize everyone else. You don’t have to be an expert to realize that our system isn’t working and we need a change.
If you read my entire first comment (Chfsfan) than you would notice that I mentioned both Herman and Carl as the two main problems with the chiefs. However, in my humble opinion it starts with our Coach. Peterson has been here since we’ve had Marty and Vermil and we did just fine. The fact of the matter is that we had a superbowl caliber team with both of these coaches and just got beat in the playoffs. I think some people forget that Carl Peterson brought in Joe Montana and Marcus Allen. Those two players worked out pretty well for us and gave us another shot at a Superbowl. You have to give Carl a little bit of credit for that move. But I think a lot of people have forgotten about that. I am no longer a Carl Peterson believer but at least he is no Matt MIllen.
JD you’re a true Chiefs fan and it’s too bad we don’t have more people like you on this website to set some of these yuppies straight. It is really refreshing to hear from another true chiefs fan that knows what they’re talking about.
However, I think we have all lost site of the fact that all we want is for the Chiefs to get better and we really do care how that gets done. Again I love the chiefs and can get really passionate when I talk about them. So if I have said anything to affend anyone than I am sorry but I just hate to see them lose this badly and usually there is someone to blame when everything has gone this horribly wrong.
My last comment is hopefully we can get through this and get back to winning. Who knows maybe in a few years we will be talking about how much we are winning and all this ugliness will be behind us. This losing has made all of us very angry and becuase of that our comments have become more about aruging than coming up with a solution. Go Chiefs!!!!
Comment by Chiefsfan36 — October 15, 2008 @ 5:04 pm
chfsfan, What has carl done right for the chiefs? he hasnt made us better were worse.I dont give a shit were clark hunt relly is i want to know why he dosent speak out about the state of this franchise.
Comment by chris — October 15, 2008 @ 5:09 pm
First and foremost. As for criticizing everyone. I apologize if that is the way I came across. But isn’t that what everyone is doing? I’m just trying to look at it differently.
As for Marty and Vermeil being successful in Kansas City. I agree that those teams were more competitive. However, they STILL fell short of winning a Super Bowl. Isn’t that the ULTIMATE goal?
Look, I’ll be honest. I want to lash out about Herm and Carl as much as you guys do. I’ve seen stuff that is absolutely ridiculous come from these two and hasn’t even been mentioned on these websites. I’m surprised that HERM sneaks some of them by JD. JD is great at finding Hermisms. But I’ll tell you why I hold back and restrain from criticizing the Chiefs management.
I’ve mentioned this before. And JD, I apologize for repeating myself. But I feel like I should explain myself.
See, I grew up in Dallas a HUGE Cowboy fan. Then this @$$hole strolled into town and fired EVERYONE including the “only coach the Cowboys ever had.”
They spewed the same EXACT BS about rebuilding that we get from the Chiefs right now.
I couldn’t STAND JJ and JJ. They ruined America’s team. In 1989, it was downright embarrassing to be a Dallas Cowboy fan. But they continued to sprinkle $hit in my cornflakes every day. And every day, I was more furious. They got embarrassed by the Redskins AT HOME and we were told…”we’re young…We’re rebuilding”. They traded away the best player on the entire team. My anger grew and grew along with every other Cowboy fan.
Jimmy would be on TV giving his press conferences saying the same stuff Herm does…”We plan on winning every week”.
You get the point. Well, to say the least it was very humbling when those guys actually did know what they were talking about. 3 Super Bowl Championships in 4 years made all the ridicule I suffered as a Cowboy fan in 1989 worth it. I realized at the time, that I am no expert, most experts aren’t really experts, (JJ and JJ were the laughing stock and butt of several jokes in the NFL), and I learned that I sure as hell don’t know more than a paid professional in the NFL.
So yeah…I’m pretty gun shy about leveling criticism at NFL management. I’ve eaten my words before.
Chiefsfan36, you are absolutely correct in your assessment that we all want the same thing. And that is for the Chiefs to go 16-0 in the regular season, and go on to win the Super Bowl.
Go Chiefs!
Comment by chfsfan — October 15, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
I went to training camp this year, and to my surprise T.G. acted like a big f”N” baby. He is pampered worse than my 4 yr old. We need a coach that will tell the cry babies how it is. They are all overpaid. Let Tony go, he couldnt even take time after practice to sign autographs for a 4 yr old kid. He acted like he didnt want to be a Chief. He acted like being a Pro Football player was a burden. I dont give a damn if he plays anywere. He has been paid well for what he does. WAAAA WAAAAAA WAAAAAAA F”N” crybaby. someone should kick his a$$
Comment by bc — October 15, 2008 @ 9:54 pm
personally, i think chiefsfan36 is a goofy SOB. Im sure he knows what this team needs to win. After all, he is the one who watches all the practices, film, and sees what kind of talent we have. Why dont you stop being a dumbass and realize that herm and carl have been doing this for years and they know how to win a little bit more than your lazyass who just watches ‘em on cbs and then goes home and complains. KC is gonna kickass in a couple of years. you wait and see.
Comment by Chiefsfan36 for Head Coach — October 15, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
Are the Chiefs merchandise on clearance yet???
Comment by VegasPunisher — October 15, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
HEY CHFSFAN,,,,,
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,,,,PULL YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASS!!!!IN RELATION TO WHAT YOUR COMMENT WAS ON COMMENT #9 WITH IT’S CARL PETERSONS JOB TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE CHIEFS,,,,AND NOT FOR TONY,,,,THATS RIGHT,,,BUT TO EVEN BEGIN TO SAY OR INSINUATE,,,THAT ON “”"ANY FUCKING LEVEL WHAT SO EVER OVER THE LAST DECADE,,,HE HAS MADE ANY DECISION THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHIEFS”"”GET FUCKING REAL!!!THAT IS THE MOST REDICULAS STATEMENT I HAVE READ THIS YEAR!!!QUEEN CARL IS A PIECE OF WORTHLESS SHIT THAT HAS ONLY PROVEN HIMSELF TO BE ONLY A GREAT “”"FUCKIJNG CON-MAN”"”!!!HE HAS FOOLED EVERYONE TO THIS POINT AND TO HEAR YOU MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT ABOUT HE DOING ONLY WHATS RIGHT FOR THE CHIEFS,,,,MAKES ME PUKE,,,HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING THEM THE LAST DECADE??? STAND THE FUCK UP AND DEMAND A REAL AGGRESSIVE NEW “”GM”" THAT CAN DO THE JOB AND BUILD A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM THE WAY THE CHIEFS DESERVE TO BE AND SPECIAL LIFELONG CHIEFS PLAYERS LIKE TONY G. HAS FOUGHT TO BE!!!!TONY G IS THE “”ULTIMATE LOYAL FRANCHISE PROFFESSIONAL AND HAS PROVED THAT!!GET FUCKING REAL YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by VEGAS CHIEF — October 16, 2008 @ 2:32 am
OHHHHH,,,,AND BC,,,,COMMENT #31,,,,
YOU MUST BE CHFSFAN’S TWIN BROTHER,,,YOU GUYS NEED TO GET FUCKING REAL AND TRULY LEARN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REALY GOING ON HERE!!QUEEN CARL AND SPERM EDWARDS AS WELL AS MR “SPAM GAILEY” ARE THE MOST DISFUNTIONAL 3 STOOGE FUCKUPS IN THE “NFL”,,,,A TOTAL EMBARSSEMENT AS WE KNOW,,ON A POP WARNER LEVEL AND TO ALL OF THE NFL IN GENERAL!!!YOU ARE NOT LIFE LONG CHIEFS FANS ON ANY LEVEL AND BC,,,,YOU COULD AFTER THAT LAST COMMENT #31,,,,BE THE BIGGEST DUMB ASS OF THEM ALL,,,YOU GUYS NEED TO REALLY GO BACK AND RE-STUDY YOUR TONY G. HISTORY AS WELL AS THE CHIEFS HISTORY TO GET AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF IT ALL,,,,BETTER YET,,,,GET ON THE SAME BUS OUT OF TOWN WITH A “”"”TRUE FUCKING CRY BABY,,,,,LJ”"”",,,WHO NEVER HAS THOUGHT OR PUT THE CHIEFS FIRST!!!YOU BOTH PISS ME OFF AND ARE TRUE IDIOTS!!!
Comment by VEGAS CHIEF — October 16, 2008 @ 2:50 am
Chris,
WOW. I guess I was wrong. You demanded it, Clark Hunt must read the Warpath….now HERE IT IS…Clark speaks about the Chiefs.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/843090.html
Interesting indeed…For JD,
“Clark Hunt made his first big impact AFTER THE END OF LAST SEASON, in which the Chiefs finished 4-12, the team’s worst record since 1977. Hunt AT THAT TIME announced the Chiefs would embark on a MASSIVE REBUILDING PROGRAM CENTERED ON YOUNG PLAYERS. He also laid out a set of expectations to meet this season.”
There ya go. Clark announced JUST last December a massive rebuilding effort. That would make it year ONE in my opininon.
As for Tony not having a “chance at a ring”. In Tony’s tenure the Chiefs have been 13-3 twice and made it to the playoffs in another year. In all 3 of those games Tony did not make some plays he should have made. He had drops in both Indy games (and one of those games was winnable with more scoring drive) and he failed to get his feet down in the endzone against Denver that would have won the game. So Tony had chances. Sure it doesn’t rest solely on his shoulders…but face it. He’s had chances.
Go Chiefs
Comment by chfsfan — October 16, 2008 @ 6:01 am
Chfsfan,
You are a piece of work. You come on here, insult everyone, make shit up & get your facts wrong, then claim ignorance, apologize & you “didn’t mean to start anything”, and then you start the process all over again.
For the last time, Herm said that LAST YEAR was a rebuilding year. Don’t you believe him? Are you calling him a liar? If you don’t believe him, how can you trust him to rebuild the team?
Why is it so hard for you to grasp that Herm (not Clark) claimed LAST YEAR was a rebuilding year? Oh, I know, it blows a hole in your theory that the Chiefs are getting better.
But for arguments sake, let’s go with your incorrect premise. Clark also said last year that he expected the Chiefs to be in the hunt for the playoffs, THIS YEAR. How can they do that if they go 3-13? Oh, they can’t can they?
When I first questioned you about Miami & Atlanta, Miami had just beat SD. But you took a WEEK to respond, and they have since lost. Nice try though. Both teams are STILL better than last year, and it didn’t take them 3 years, it only took 6 MONTHS.
I knew you had no response for Atlanta & Miami, and I even called it. I also know why you can’t explain why they’re good, because it blows a hole in your theory that the Chiefs are getting better.
I don’t care about the Cowboys. What worked in 1989 doesn’t work now. They didn’t have free agency back then. In 1989, rebuilding was a 3 year project, in 2008 (the year we are in NOW), rebuilding is a ONE YEAR project.
A better example is New England, where they used the draft AND free agency. And they signed a CRAPLOAD of old, over-the-hill, aged, veteran free agents, and guess what? They won 3 of 4 Super Bowls.
Herm wants to ride a bicycle while everyone else is in a car, and lemmings like you are right there telling us the sky is not falling.
At least Jimmy Johnson had a record of WINNING before he came to the Cowboys. Herm does not.
Most of Herm’s issues have nothing to do with rebuilding, it’s his day-to-day & game decisions that are moronic.
But if you want to keep arguing what the definition of “is” is, then good for you. I have been proven right on most everything I have said about Herm, and time will prove me right again.
Herm is incompetent & will continue to be regardless of anything I say or do.
Talking to you is like to talking to a brick wall, except not as stimulating. Hope you enjoy more those 34-0 losses, because this is what you wanted, & this is what you’ll get.
Comment by JD — October 16, 2008 @ 11:00 am
JD,
Again…I bow down to your expertise. You da man!
Comment by chfsfan — October 16, 2008 @ 11:14 am
THANK YOU JD!!!
Comment by VEGAS CHIEF — October 16, 2008 @ 1:43 pm
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AND IT’S NICE TO READ WHATS RIGHT AND HEAR YOU PUT SOME OF THESE GUYS WHERE THEY BELONG,,,YOU PUT DOWN SOME GOOD STUFF!!!KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Comment by VEGAS CHIEF — October 16, 2008 @ 1:45 pm
Can you blame Tony G. He wants to play on a team that is a contender! Any one here really believe that is going to happen under the guidance of our wonderful King Carl. It hasn’t happened yet in the twentieth year of his five-year-plan. And guess what, with disgruntled players who are going to get tired of this system, theyl’l want out too. Give the ones who are going to be stellar players a few years until they are free-agents, and they’ll find teams who are willing to pay them( not the King) too! Carl Peterson, you are a loser at football, when the fans no longer show up, maybe, just maybe, someone will listen!
Comment by curt — October 16, 2008 @ 6:46 pm
Hey VEGAS CHIEF, you sound alot like the band geeks back in high school that played fantasy football and never steped on a football field. You can shove all your facts up your ass. The only fact that you need to throw around is that you are a fucking cry baby like the rest of the people crying about Tony not being traded. WAAAAAAAAA!!!!He doesnt deserve shit. He should be gatefull that the Chiefs put his California ass in a unifrom. I have seen his crybaby bullshit first hand at camp. He has no heart. We saw him all over river falls drinking and chasing babes
All you fans see is what is on tv or in the paper. He acts as bad as pac man. He just hasnt been cought and or has better PR. LARRY was the one in the dorms every night after practice. Get it right!!!! You dont know half the shit you think you do.
Comment by bc — October 16, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
BC,
Is that what VEGASCHIEF was babbling about? I can’t believe you could muddle through VEGASCHIEF’s posts. I didn’t think anyone even read them considering he apparently doesn’t have a period key on his keyboard. And I think his comma key gets stuck.
Comment by chfsfan — October 17, 2008 @ 10:08 am
HEY CHFSFAN & BC,,,,,
LMMFAO,,YOU IDIOTS ARE WORTHLESS,,,,YOU BELONG IN A COUNTRY HICK TRAILOR PARK YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING IDIOTS,,,,I WOULD’NT BE SURPRISED IF YOU BOTH WERE’NT NOT ONLY LOVERS,,,,BUT RUMP-RANGING ROOMATES THAT CAN’T SEEM TO TRULY KNOW WHAT A REAL CHIEFS FAN SHOULD BE!!! AND OHHHH,,,LIKE YOU KNOW ANYSHIT ABOUT BEING IN TONY’S SHOES OR BEING A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER,,,GIVE ME A BREAK!!AND IF YOU DON’T LIKE MY COMMA’S,,,TOUGH SHIT,,,IT COMES WITH EXTRA EMPHASIS,,,WHICH YOU PROBABLY DON’T UNDERSTAND ANYWAY!! YOU BOTH ARE A JOKE AND A EMBARASSMENT TO CHIEFS FANS AROUND THE WORLD,,,BRING IT ON!!!
Comment by VEGAS CHIEF — October 18, 2008 @ 3:44 am
this article is kinda interesting;
http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/10/16/gonzalez-has-himself-to-blame/
Comment by kk — October 18, 2008 @ 6:57 am
kk,
Thanks for the article. Kinda sheds some light and puts blame where it belongs. On both sides.
Comment by chfsfan — October 18, 2008 @ 9:08 am
In 1997 I attended the Draft Party at Arrowhead Stadium. As all Chiefs fans know, this is the year Tony was Drafted. In the years Tony has played, we have have seen him grow from a College kid into Mr. Kansas City Chief. I never wanted Tony to retire anywhere else, but Kansas City. He demonstrates loyalty and class, and has never talked bad about our City. Selfishly deep down I am glad Tony stays here, but to simply put it, it is unfair to him. We won’t see a playoff game for atleast a few years. I believe Tony when he says he will always be a Chief because he understands what the Team and himself mean to this incredible City of ours. But like a parent does with their child, our organization needs to let him go to accomplish something that means the world to him, and that is a Super Bowl. I hope next year he goes to a contender and gets his ring. No Matter what, Tony Gonzalez will be a Kansas City Chief.
Comment by Soul Daddy — October 19, 2008 @ 6:33 am
VEGAS CHIEF,,,,,,,,,,,,,You really think your a bad ass in internet land. I would love to shove your head right up your ass. OH, But thats were it already is,,,,,,,,,,,Wish you would come to KC so I could kick you ass all the way back to vegas,,,,,,,, I fucking hate you band geeks thinking you know football,,,,,,Winning your fantasy football league, isnt playing football,,,,,, Its obvious you have never suited up,,,,except in your band uniform,,,,,,,,,,So why dont you go to BAND CAMP and shove your flute up your ass. Seems like you know more about that area than anything else,,,,,,,,,,(comment #44).
Comment by bc — October 19, 2008 @ 11:32 am
VEGAS FAG,,,,,,,,,,Why dont you skip football today and watch broke back mountain since you are so interested in the brown eye,,,,,,,,, Maybe you and one of your fantasy football budies can toss some salad,,,,,,You sure the hell havent ever tossed a football,,,,,,,,,,,
Comment by bc — October 19, 2008 @ 11:42 am
BC,
I like your spunk, but dude, don’t waste your time on that Vegas idiot. I don’t even attempt to read his posts anymore. He’s a total moron with a (broken) keyboard. That’s all.
Comment by chfsfan — October 19, 2008 @ 3:36 pm