C-Ya croyle. At least your wifes hot….

Comment by KC — October 19, 2008 @ 7:15 pm

TIME FOR A NEW QUTERBACK.DRAFT OR FREE AGENCY?

Comment by Chris — October 19, 2008 @ 7:54 pm

Croyle is a pussy!

Comment by Nick — October 19, 2008 @ 8:15 pm

lets give culpepper a shot

Comment by DB — October 19, 2008 @ 8:32 pm

Culpepper will never agree to come to KC. He’ll be scared of getting hurt.

Seems like they claimed Croyle out for the season awful fast. Usually, they want to wait for MRIs on Monday to do that. Maybe it was subconscious wishful thinking by Herm that he said he was out for the season. I may be wrong, but MCLs usually only put you out 4-6 weeks. Whereas ACLs put you out for a year. I thought I heard this was an MCL. Anyway, he gets hurt every other time he starts–he needs to go. I just hope the Chiefs can see that. It is funny he was asked about getting hurt all the time on Friday and said he just needs to go out and prove it wrong. LOL.

Comment by Jeff in VA — October 19, 2008 @ 8:53 pm

I guess st. louis is smarter than KC and figured out it REALLY IS THE COACH!!!

Comment by ed f — October 19, 2008 @ 9:53 pm

KNOWING THIS CHEAP ASS OWNER YOU THINK HELL CALL STEVE DEBERG, HES PROBABLY CHEAP KNOW.

Comment by Chris — October 19, 2008 @ 10:00 pm

“Herm the Team Destroyer” has got to go.

Comment by ed f — October 19, 2008 @ 10:03 pm

Brodie “Pringles in a fuckin can” Croyle See ya,

Herm apply for the Headcoach of the Raiders,

I like Herms answer when he was asked about Tee MArtin playing…

He is too young to play right now……. You are a a a a a … ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH I can’t even think of what you are.

Herm go fornicate yourself and leave

Comment by Herm Edwards — October 19, 2008 @ 10:06 pm

Yes I did the last post

Comment by kcchiefs19692003 — October 19, 2008 @ 10:06 pm

I hope we get a QB in this years draft, Colt McCoy, Bradford, or Stafford… Colt would be my first choice

Comment by kcchiefs19692003 — October 19, 2008 @ 10:10 pm

I was a big Croyle fan. He showed greatness at Alabama. Not all his falt we have no line to protect, no running game, recievers cant get seperation,play calling sucks.Sorry it didn’t work out. Doesnt matter who takes the snaps they end up running for their life.

Comment by Habanero — October 19, 2008 @ 10:46 pm

I think Jeff George is still available, LOL… I’ll bet he can take a hit, but he probably can’t run very fast!

Comment by Mike N — October 19, 2008 @ 11:25 pm

Croyle is the most fragile qb ive ever seen. CUT HIM

Comment by Jones — October 19, 2008 @ 11:32 pm

That pic with the bag over that guys head is hilarious. I might do that one game.

Comment by Jones — October 19, 2008 @ 11:41 pm

we need to trade tony G for a good o lineman in the offseason, and take some good o linemen in like the 2nd 4th and 5th rounds of next years draft.

there’s no reason to spend a high draft pick on a QB that isnt safe in the pocket and will never be able to learn how to play in the NFL. but the 1st round pick and likely the >>>>>>>number 1 pick overall MUST BE A QB<<<<<<<<<<<<

Comment by KC111110 — October 19, 2008 @ 11:45 pm

we need to trade tony G for a good o lineman in the offseason, and take some good o linemen in like the 2nd 4th and 5th rounds of next years draft.

there’s no reason to spend a high draft pick on a QB that isnt safe in the pocket and will never be able to learn how to play in the NFL. but in the 1st round
>>>>>>>the number 1 pick overall MUST BE A QB<<<<<<<<<<

But Who?

Comment by KC111110 — October 19, 2008 @ 11:46 pm

if anyone on here knew anything they would know its not all croyle’s fault, you cant play football without a line, thats where it all starts people. how would you feel if you spent 2 out of 4 years in college hurt and get hurt in 4 or the 8 games you start as a chief
maybe he is just to fragile but i feel bad for the guy, atleast his wife is hot but weather you like it or not he’s probably going to be around kc as a backup next year to matt stafford or mr tebo

Comment by michae — October 19, 2008 @ 11:47 pm

1. Tim Tebow
2. Colt McCoy
3. Chase Daniel
4. Sam Bradford
5. Todd Reesing
6 Matt Stafford

anybody else?

Comment by KC111110 — October 19, 2008 @ 11:52 pm

Use the opportunity to release croil and draft a real QB. Use the other picks to protect the new QB. It’s not a perfect plan, but it’s better than what’s going on now!!!!!

Comment by Michael D. — October 19, 2008 @ 11:58 pm

yeah i got someone else. LEN DAWSON. Sure he’s 70 something years old but at least we can say we’ve got a hall of fame QB. Steve DeBerg is a possiblity. Bring MartyBall back. Hey what about Steve Bono…..or Elvis Grbac. How bout’ Todd Blackledge. any of them are better than Croyle cause at least they can take a hit. Its pretty sad that our punter is the highlight of our team. Trade Gonzalez, LJ, Surtain for some draft picks or other veterans.

Comment by KC Chiefs #1 — October 20, 2008 @ 12:03 am

i agree with the first comment up top by KC. Croyle’s wife is smokin’ hot.

Comment by KC Chiefs #1 — October 20, 2008 @ 12:04 am

michae – You forgot NEVER WON A GAME AS A NFL STARTER. Him being injury prone shpould have told Herm that he is not the right QB. He should have let the cancer go. He never was a great QB in college, he was average. Lookat all who we let slip by in the Draft?

As for me I am not to happy at all with this losing effort of Herm the Destroyer. I know the Jets are just laughing the hin ends off for the trade

Comment by kcchiefs19692003 — October 20, 2008 @ 6:24 am

Yep, the guy with grocery sack pretty much sums up the state of affairs in KC. Pathetic doesn’t even begin to describe the state. Can’t imagine the mental state of the locker room. Has to be rock bottom. Chiefs are now 1-14 for their last 15 games and the future isn’t bright.

Too bad for Croyle but this was a situation easy to spot…three years ago when they drafted him. Typical Karl, hoping for magic on the cheap. Croyle had a good arm for HS and college …but he has ALWAYS been fragile. What they were thinking would be different about the NFL is beyond me.
Karl admits he missed letting the O line get old. Again, any 5th grader could have looked at the list of our guys and their age FOUR years ago and said its time to start really getting ready for the future. Something more than hoping that a couple of late round picks magically turning into gems. Hope is not a strategy.
They should have traded TG last spring. Ability to trade him this winter will be diminished I believe.
Getting suspended will be the best thing for LJ. Keeps him from getting injured if hes not playing. LJ needs a new start and KC is not the place for him anymore.
I luv Gunther….but where the hell is the “D”?

Comment by brad — October 20, 2008 @ 7:14 am

mr.glass got hurt in the first huard got hurt in the third and pigpen scored are touchdown. then i flip the station and the rams put killing on dallas we are the the worst team in the nfl.this season sux and herm and carl should be gone.

Comment by kill me — October 20, 2008 @ 7:54 am

LEN DAWSON!!!!

Comment by Weezy — October 20, 2008 @ 8:12 am

THE BEST PAPER GROCERY SACK IVE EVER SEEN.

Comment by Chris — October 20, 2008 @ 8:22 am

Trade Gonzo to the Browns for Brady. Then go draft and free agency for lineman. Also trade L.J. for lineman and picks. It all starts up front on both sides of the ball. GO lineman only in the draft.

Comment by bc — October 20, 2008 @ 9:20 am

I don’t know if Brady Quinn is the answer. Personally, I like the idea of signing Kyle Orton next year. He’ll be a free agent next year (if the Bears don’t decide to pay him). We missed a chance at another Purdue QB (Brees). Maybe Orton will continue to improve.

But bc, you are right about one thing. It starts up front. It doesn’t matter who we have at QB when he’s running for his life.

Comment by chfsfan — October 20, 2008 @ 9:36 am

Upon further review, Mr. Orton is not an option. Looks like Chicago has him wrapped up through 2009.

Comment by chfsfan — October 20, 2008 @ 10:01 am

I personally thought Croyle was a pretty decent quarterback. He had an extremely strong arm. He seems to be snake bitten by injuries and I don’t think he is in any way Kansas City’s quarterback of the future. Maybe we could get Chase Daniels in the draft. I’m not exactly sure how good Brady Quinn is but it may not matter if we had Tom Brady the way the rest of the team is playing. I don’t like the idea of Orton. I’m tired of mediocre quarterbacks and that’s what he is. For those of you that are on Colt McCoy’s cock he is to small for the NFL. We need to get rid of Huard because he draws a big salary and either sits on the bench or comes in , has two plays, and then gets hurt. He’s to old and to slow for this league.

Comment by Rocky — October 20, 2008 @ 11:40 am

I’m by no means a Colt McCoy fan, but Colt McCoy is 6’3″ 205 lbs. They said Drew Brees was too small. He’s only 6’0″ 209….But I’d sure take him.

Comment by chfsfan — October 20, 2008 @ 11:54 am

The problem with the team is that there is no enthusiam or meanness. When that TN running back started playing the drums in the end zone someone should have jacked him. Then later when Thigpen scored the touchdown and was hit late in the end zone, not one player came over to defend him. I guarantee you if that had been Joe Montana scoring and that happened his lineman would have come running. Thigpen is no Montana, but team is team.

I always liked Tony G, but he has given up on the team. That then spreads like a cancer. He was one of the leaders of the team. When he gives up, the rooks will too. LJ is another one looked to for leadership, and he has failed at that horribly.

Herm should stay, but many of the coaches have to go, as does the GM. Prifer (sp?) is horrible with the special teams. I love Gunther, but I think his time has come and gone. Our scouting dept. has been doing an average job at best. Personnel decisions are horrible (see Kaviki Mitchell). But to get rid of the head coach would mean starting completely over.

The Chiefs are looking like the Royals of football. Losing can become acceptable (see the Chiefs of 1975-1985), and this trend must be stopped quickly. Players must be held accountable for performance. Guys like Novak must be replaced for missing numerous field goals. Lineman missing blocks repeatedly must be cut. Runners wearing diapers and assalting women must be traded. Defensive lineman who as a group have no sacks 7 games in to the season… well they should just be ashamed. This defensive line really bothers me because we have spent numerous high draft choices here and they are still playing absolutely awful.

I agree with Herm in the team going young, but you have to throw a handful of vets in there to show the rooks the way. You need several key guys who have been to the “big show” and can lead these guys. I go back again to the Montana/Marcus Allen acquisitions, and what that did for our team.

As always, Go Chiefs!

Comment by Jim in Florida — October 20, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

I was thinking about this yesterday after I just saw a shot on the sideline with Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn with the Packers starting QB Aaron Rodgers. Flynn and Brohm are BOTH rookie QBs this year. Brohm was a high-powered qb out of Louisville and Flynn was a National Championship qb out of LSU. While I will always love and admire Tony G., why not trade him to Green Bay to grab one of those rookies in the off-season. Both have good size and were pretty talented in college, although Brohm had a weak senior campaign. Without a doubt, if there is no trade made for a qb in the off-season, the Chiefs MUST draft a qb in the first or second round or BOTH. But above all else, we can be sure that the “Broken” Croyle Era is completely over. He has thrown his last pass as a Chiefs starter. Hey, at least it was a nice toss to Bowe for a completion! As far as your list for qb’s to draft, I’d have to disagree with this list:
1. Tim Tebow- He’ll probably stay all four years.
2. Colt McCoy- Possible, his stock is definitely rising.
3. Chase Daniel- Too small, no o-line help so he’ll get abused. He can run though.
4. Sam Bradford- Needs to beef up, but definitely a winner.
5. Todd Reesing- Uh, no way. I’d rather keep Croyle. Plus, he’s a Jayhawk…gross.
6 Matt Stafford- don’t know much about him, but he could be a viable candidate. Definitely take him over Reesing.

Comment by Jerid — October 20, 2008 @ 1:15 pm

i think we should bring culpepper in sign him to a two year deal draft tebow let culpper start the next two years while mentoring the kid you couldnt get better mentoring than that right now and id be willing to bet money on that culpepper would be more than willing to go along with that. then we could trade tg for a younger free agent middle linebacker.

Comment by dale nipper — October 20, 2008 @ 1:43 pm

Chase Daniel is a gimmick QB. It has been demonstrated that he cannot produce in the clutch and he has never taken a snap under center. He won’t be able to line-up in a 7 yard shotgun every play in the NFL. Colt McCoy is from a spread offense as well, see Vince Young. Who we need is Sam Bradford, that guy remains calm in the pocket in the most tense situations and without a running game, he will have to put OU on his back the rest of the season.

I like Stafford, he has all the “tools” and he threw one of the prettiest passes you will ever see in last weekend’s Vandy game; but I think Sam Bradford is the total package. We couldn’t go wrong with either one. At this point, it really doesn’t matter who we put back there.

Comment by Big Booms — October 20, 2008 @ 1:56 pm

I like Bradford to but I worry about his knee. Also, Bradford is just a sophmore and he’ll more than likely stay there.

Comment by Rocky — October 20, 2008 @ 4:06 pm

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I was a big Croyle fan. He showed greatness at Alabama. Not all his falt we have no line to protect, no running game, recievers cant get seperation,play calling sucks.Sorry it didn’t work out. Doesnt matter who takes the snaps they end up running for their life.

Comment by Habanero — October 19, 2008 @ 10:46 pm

Hey Habanero. David Carr got sacked alot in Houston and he wasnt always hurt. Face it. Croyle is just fragile.

Comment by J-Rock in Texas — October 20, 2008 @ 4:49 pm

Bradford gets a ton of time in that pocket with no pressure, so no I dont think hed be good on the chiefs.

Comment by Brian — October 20, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

Also to the guy that said Tom Brady wouldnt do anything on the chiefs I believe you are mistaken. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, guys like that read defenses and they call AUDIBLES AND HOT ROUTES. Things that Herm has never heard of before. HERMCUFF FOOTBALL BABY

Comment by Brian — October 20, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

Bradford is actually a RS Sophomore and they say guys will be coming out due to the collective bargaining agreement in 2011 which will probably go to a rookie pay scale system.

Brodie Croyle was not great in college. Alabama’s defense was sick that year. Croyle beat Tech in the Cotton Bowl by a score of 13-10. If he was great, it would have been at least 31-10.

And yes, as long as a new QB has the Hermcuffs on and King Carl is putting his premadonna ego over the betterment of the team, we are f****d!

Comment by Big Booms — October 20, 2008 @ 6:42 pm

Where in the hell did the chiefshuddle go? Someone let me know. BTW – Tebow can’t play in a pro offense. McCoy or Bradford has to be the choice here. They are both so damn accurate! Croyle…what a joke! I said it since day one on the chiefs huddle site… SAD

Comment by Steve — October 20, 2008 @ 7:07 pm

When have the Chiefs ever drafted a true francise QB? King Carl will never spend the money. Oh wait, we got that Blackledge guy. Good thing the other QB’s in that draft didnt amount to anything……

Comment by CCason — October 20, 2008 @ 7:54 pm

I think a lot more goes into a QB being “injury prone” than just being physically fragile. For instance, a few things that can go into it:

1) Luck
2) Technique in taking a hit
3) Vision to see hit coming and use #2
4) Escape ability
5) Natural “toughness” of joints, etc
6) Natural reaction to being hit (does body stay loose or lock up?)
7) Injury history (e.g. weakened parts)
8) Protection (not only to keep from getting hit, but from getting clean shots)

It’s getting pretty hard to argue it’s just #1 for Croyle.

Comment by VLTC — October 20, 2008 @ 9:42 pm

By the way, i didn’t intend to emphasize the last point… it seems using 8 and ) makes such a thing….

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Comment by VLTC — October 20, 2008 @ 9:44 pm

8)

Comment by kk — October 20, 2008 @ 9:59 pm

Jim in FLA, you say that Herm should stay?
In all honesty could you please put up a list of reasons as to why he should stay.
I’m being serious here, if there are any Herm supporters out there, I would like to hear why.

Comment by Johnny 5 — October 20, 2008 @ 10:42 pm

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again….Croyle’s a cream puff, he can’t take a hit, and is NOT the answer. I knew he would get hurt the second he got back on the field, especially against a D like the Titans. Some guys like Favre & Elway can take vicious hits, and still perform at a high level for a long time. We need somebody like that.

There are a couple of options for 09(although Carl will never do the right thing.)
-Brady Quinn or Orton could be good to bring in to start for a while until we draft and groom the RIGHT qb

to my suprise, nobody’s mentioned Graham Harrell of Texas Tech…he’s performed spectacularly for a couple of years now, although he’s a product of a potent offensive scheme, his talents could transfer well.

Chase Daniel won’t do. I’m a Mizzou fan, and he got exposed these last couple of weeks. The good teams in the big12 saw the smoke & mirrors coming this year

Bradford might do ok, although he hasn’t experienced any adversity, and hasn’t been under much pressure

McCoy…maybe, it took him a while to get his legs under him

but somebody raised a good point earlier, this team has no heart. Tony might still be able to make plays, but his bad attitude is toxic. and the other younger players seem like they have given up already. There is no mental toughness. Eventually these guys are going to have to get tired of losing, and Herm isn’t hard enough on these guys “they’re young and they’re working hard” or “they need to work on their gaps” Sorry, Herm, that’s not cutting it. If guys aren’t controlling their “gaps”, they’re getting their asses kicked physically and mentally…pure and simple.

I never agreed with the decision to hire Herm to begin with, and as long as Carl Petersucker is in charge, our Chiefs will continue to be the laughing stock of the league. All due respect to the Hunt family, they can’t build a winner, and if they care about this team, they need to sell it to somebody who A: will keep the team in KC
and B: can adapt to the changing nature of the league.

I hope I’ll eat my words someday, because we have some talent…just not enough of it, and the wrong people are making the wrong decisions.

Comment by reedeasy77 — October 20, 2008 @ 11:49 pm

Now we’re down to two useless qb’s, a useless offensive line, a horrible defense, a convict rb, a clueless gm and the worst coach in NFL history. But don’t worry, Herm has a plan and Clark doensn’t have any balls.

Comment by Fenwick — October 21, 2008 @ 12:06 am

Yes, Fenwick. Clark is a ball-less money-grubbing fat fuck who doesn’t care about the fans, or the team. I watch at home from my paper sack with eyeholes in horror each week…my favorite part of Chiefs games this year is when they are over. All we can do is not spend any money on this steaming turd that is called an NFL team….I’ll always love the Chiefs, but I think I’ll start seeing other teams this season.

Comment by reedeasy77 — October 21, 2008 @ 12:23 am

you play..to win…the game

Comment by Travis — October 21, 2008 @ 5:41 am

we need more than oline qb wr we also need defensive tackles we need a whole team

Comment by rick — October 21, 2008 @ 7:50 am

We need a few things to have a successful QB. First a foremost a solid coaching staff, strike one, second, a solid offensive line, strike two, solid play calling, strike three, and you are out!

I know a total different sport, but, same concept.

Comment by Mike N — October 21, 2008 @ 9:03 am

I will say Brodie I like ya but you are made of glass. I know what we are about 2 do. When Mike Vick gets out of jail we are calling him. WHY NOT…..hes not going back 2 ATL. So why not give a proven QB a shot?

Comment by Darius Moore — October 21, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

Proven? Mike Vick? Well, for one, he’s not going to Atlanta. You’re right. But he’s apparently headed to Virginia where he is under indictment for dog-fighting. The state has postponed his trial until the Feds are done with him. He’s looking at 10 years with the state.

Comment by chfsfan — October 21, 2008 @ 1:54 pm

8)

Comment by Weezy — October 21, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

Its not Tony’s fault he didn’t get traded. If he would have gotten traded, as promised, you wouldn’t be saying he was toxic to the team. When he signed his extention, the Chiefs weren’t going with the youth movement. I understand why he wants out. But he played better than any TE in the league this week. I’m glad he’s still here.

Hopefully, a new GM and Coach will be making the decision on the future QB. If I hear Herm say Brodie will be starting next year when he comes back–well, that would just piss me off!

Comment by Jeff in VA — October 21, 2008 @ 5:29 pm

VEGAS FAG,,,,,,,,YOU NEED TO READ “GONZALEZ ANGERED BY NON-TRADE AGAIN” COMMENT # 48 AND #49 YOU BAND GEEK

Comment by bc — October 22, 2008 @ 5:37 pm