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Chief Thoughts: Jets, Spread Offense & Brett Favre!
Posted By ChiefsWarpath.com On October 30, 2008 @ 1:36 pm In Commentary | Comments Disabled
The Jets coaches and Brett Favre did everything they could to lose this game, but the Chiefs just wanted it more.
Chiefs 24, Jets 28
Here are some random thoughts that crossed my mind while watching the 1-15 Chiefs blow a late lead. But that’s the genius of Herm Edwards. He builds up your hopes just enough to think you might have a chance, and then he hits you in the balls, “Casino Royale” style.
Mangenius? How about Manjackass? The Jets coach was trying to out-Herm Herm. The Chiefs gave up 350 rushing yards last game? Too bad! We’ve got BRETT FAVRE!! So we are going to throw, throw, throw! BRETT FAVRE!!
I go back to the Jets/Chargers MNF game where, due to penalty, the Jets had the ball on the 6 inch line for the 2 point conversion, and they threw the ball. ON THE 6 INCH LINE.
Last week against the Raiders, using their regular offense, the Jets could only muster 7 points in 59 minutes. So what do the Jets do in overtime? Run their regular offense of course, and the Raiders win.
Two of Brett Favre’s interceptions by the Chiefs could’ve been fair caught.
Tyler Thigpen played great, but still has a lot to learn, like clock management. Luckily he has people with absolutely no clock management skills teaching him what to do.
At the end of the first half, Tyler threw to the 10-yard line with 20 seconds left and did not call a time out. Instead, the Chiefs blew 10 seconds getting to the line of scrimmage to spike the ball. Had he called timeout, KC would have had three chances to throw to the end zone, as opposed to the onr chance they ended up with.
It all worked out as Mark Bradley made a great catch for a touchdown. Had Tyler had competent coaching, they could have called a timeout from the sideline, but Herm didn’t. Just one more example of Herm’s lack of game day decision making. Again.
Some people, well, Herm Supporters, need to separate “rebuilding” and “coaching”, as they are not exclusive. A lot of the complaints against Herm have to do with his day-to-day decisions and his game day decisions. I can suffer through the growing pains of a rebuilding project, but I can’t suffer through the daily Moron Summersaults that Herm likes to do.
The Chiefs were throwing the ball downfield and the wide receivers had more catches than the running backs! Can you believe it? I couldn’t either.
The Jets reiterate my point by throwing deep on 3rd and 1 against the worst run defense in the league. BRETT FAVRE, BRETT FARVE!!!
Derrick Johnson misses a touchdown opportunity by letting an interception bounce off his hands. D’oh! I wonder if Brett Favre could’ve tackled him like he did Jerome Woods in Green Bay back in ’03. BRETT FAVRE, BRETT FARVE!!!
I like how after the slow motion replay of Thomas Jones touchdown run, the camera zooms in on the Jets quarterback as he celebrates Jones’ score. BRETT FAVRE, BRETT FARVE!!!
HOLTUS: “This is a big play.” (on 3rd & 2 for the Jets at the KC 8-yard line)
JD: Mitch could not have been more right as Brandon Flowers lets DJ off the hook by intercepting Brett Favre and returning it for a 91-yard touchdown.
Dan Dierdorf comments on how the Jets continue to operate in shotgun on 3rd & short, even though it does not work for them. BRETT FAVRE, BRETT FARVE!!!
With five minutes left, who is going to Herm Edwards this game? Your choices are: Eric Manjackass, BRETT FAVRE, and of course, Herm Edwards.
Wait, #31 Priest Holmes, I mean Maurice Leggett, has just put his name in the hat as he whiffs on a punt return tackle which the Jets return to the 50-yard line.
Some people, well, Herm Supporters, have decided that Chan Gaily is responsible for the three straight running plays featuring a running back who was averaging 1-yard per carry. We all know this was Herm’s call. He said as much at the end of the Denver game when he wouldn’t let Tony break the record. Herm the Spineless doesn’t take any chances when he has a lead. You know it, I know it, and the other team knows it as well. All season I have seen winning teams going for it on 4th & 1, because that’s what winners do, they take it. Losers hold on and hope to have a chance.
Let’s not forget we only scored three offensive points in the second half. Had we scored a little more, those last three plays wouldn’t have mattered.
Some people, well, Herm Supporters, feel pretty good about the game since it was so close. How low have we fallen? Herm has decimated this franchise so much that to be competitive with a crappy team that was playing crappy counts as a moral victory. What a load of crap. The fact that we lost respectively instead of embarrassingly doesn’t make a difference. Maybe in Herm’s Bizarro World it does, but not mine. While a loss by 34 points is pretty bad, in the standings it counts the same as a loss by four points.
The Chiefs play calling on both offense and defense was clearly different. Looks like the Hermcuffs came off the coordinators, for at least three quarters anyway. It looked good while at lasted.
The Chiefs have now lost eight straight road games. Way to go Herm on extending yet another losing streak!
Press Conference 10/28/08
Q: Can you tell us the status of Larry Johnson?
EDWARDS: “I think we sent out a statement (yesterday).”
JD: You think? Do you want to call someone and find out for sure? Either way, the question wasn’t about a statement, it was about you telling us LJ’s status RIGHT F’N NOW. Either he’s playing or not. You’re the head coach, just make a decision already and have the balls to stand by it.
Q: The spread offense doesn’t exactly go along NFL norms or even Herm Edwards norms. Is that just something you have to do to stimulate this offense the rest of the way?
JD: I love how the questioner states Herm’s “norms” like they are good and should be used as a benchmark.
EDWARDS: “Whatever way you can move the ball. If a spread offense takes us in that direction I still don’t think you can live in it.”
JD: You can’t live in it? Why, because it was successful? Really?
EDWARDS: “It’s like anything else, if people get a bead on what you’re doing the first thing they do is attack you. We caught the Jets a little bit by surprise because we stayed in it a lot and they hadn’t practiced it.”
JD: Are you saying the Chiefs offense just got lucky? Are you really invalidating the best quarterback play we’ve had in two years? I’m not surprised though, since it proves the Hermcuffs actually do bind an offense. Herm “The Team Comes First” Edwards would rather dismiss his own coaches and players than admit his way doesn’t work.
Q: How comfortable are you using it because it doesn’t happen very often in this league?
EDWARDS: “Oh, I’m comfortable using it. I’m comfortable moving the ball and trying to score points. That’s what you’re trying to do. But you still have to run the ball.”
JD: Being in the spread doesn’t mean you abandon the run. Why does Herm have such a hard time with doing two things at once? He can’t draft AND sign free agents and he can’t run AND pass the ball. I love how Herm has to tell us he’s “comfortable” scoring points. Only with Herm is this an issue. Just like how he has to remind us that he “tells the truth”.
EDWARDS: “It still goes back to that whether you’re in the spread or a traditional offense. You have to be able to run the ball and be balanced. If you’re not balanced and play unbalanced and, especially if you have to throw the ball a lot, you generally don’t win.”
JD: Herm’s 3-Speak returns with “balanced”. When has Herm ever been balanced? Swing passes to the running back in the flat does not count as a passing attack. What a load of crap. Throwing the ball a lot means you don’t generally win? I wonder if Brady, Manning, Marino and Elway would agree.
Q: Does it hurt your chances of running?
JD: Who is asking these retarded questions? This just like last week’s “Did going to the playoffs hurt the Chiefs” question. Going to the playoffs gives you a chance to win the Super Bowl, which is supposed to be the goal of the NFL. Throwing the ball does not hurt you chances of running. Ridiculous.
EDWARDS: “There are only certain plays you can run with one back in the backfield and you’re spread out. It makes it a little bit difficult, but there are some runs you can run. You’ve got to keep them honest. You have to be able to run the ball in that formation.”
JD: Keeping them honest? You mean like how you keep opposing teams honest by throwing deep once a week?
Q: Are you surprised that college defenses are having so much difficulty in stopping the spread offense?
JD: Uh, college?
Q: What was the defensive book on stopping it?
JD: Are you really asking a head coach how he would stop his own offense?
EDWARDS: “Pressure. You pressure the quarterback.”
JD: Are you actually answering the question on how to stop your own offense?
EDWARDS: “When you throw it all the time what happens to you is you get in the habit of throwing it all the time and that’s okay when you have a lead.”
JD: I thought you said throwing is bad when you have a lead.
EDWARDS: “But the problem is when you do have a lead you want to try and shorten the game. If you can’t run the ball because you don’t practice running now you can’t run the ball. At the end of the game, what are you doing: you’re trying to run the ball and you can’t because you don’t practice it enough.”
JD: That’s quite a leap to say because you throw a lot in a game, you must not work on running in practice.
EDWARDS: “You’re always throwing that little bubble screen, a little wide pass that’s like a toss play.”
JD: If it’s like a toss play, then that sounds like a pretty safe play. Why couldn’t you call this for Tony G against Denver?
EDWARDS: “The elements slow you down with that offense when it gets cold.”
JD: What about when it’s not cold?
EDWARDS: “If you’re not a dome team and you have to play outside weather becomes a factor all of a sudden. It’s raining, it’s icy, it’s cold. All those things become factors. At the end those are the teams that go all the way when you can run the football.”
JD: Didn’t you say last year that the cold isn’t a factor for warm weather teams? You did, before the Raider game. Didn’t you also say the Chargers and Bengals played an overtime AFC Championship Game in frigid temperatures and the cold didn’t matter there either? You did. Now you’re saying the weather IS a factor?
Didn’t the Colts, a dome team, with Peyton Manning, a passer who throws a lot, beat the Bears, a cold weather team, in a cold rain in the Super Bowl? And by the way, the 1981 AFC Championship was not an overtime game, it was a 27-7 blow-out, but thanks for playing.
Q: You always coach to your personnel, but this offense generally has a good blocker in the backfield. What you have are more halfback types.
JD: Herm coaches to his personnel? Really? Like when he forced the Air Saunders offense to play Martyball?
EDWARDS: “You make a good point. Once you show it to defenses then they look at it and go and try to attack it. Then we have to have things to counterattack.”
JD: Run, Run, Incompletion, punt is a counterattack?
EDWARDS: “When we were in New York, believe it or not, Vinny (Testaverde) ran this offense. What Vinny always used to say was he would prefer to spread them out and see the blitzes coming. He just felt he could beat it if he saw it coming. He was in the shotgun and he thought he had enough time. It’s one of those things that if the quarterback feels comfortable and can get the ball out of his hand, then it’s just a matter of beating the one-on-one coverage. That’s what you live with. If you throw a lot of incompletes you live with a lot of three-and-outs and the clock stops and your defense goes right back on the field. If you miss the first one you’re in second-and-10. It becomes a long football game.”
JD: Because you never have three and outs with your offense.
Q: Do you know how your two and three quarterbacks will line up now?
EDWARDS: “Right now that’s a good question. I think both of them will be available but who we deem number two we haven’t decided. Gray is a veteran kind of guy who’s played and has caught on pretty well. He’s a quick read, a smart guy.”
JD: And later it’s a bad question?
Q: There were reports that Daunte Culpepper was coming to town and it was cancelled. Did you guys cancel it or did he?
EDWARDS: “There were reports but it never came to fruition. We talked to him and he talked to us. Right now I think he’s in Detroit.”
JD: That’s great, but the question was who canceled it?
Q: But you didn’t tell him not to show up or did he blow you off?
EDWARDS: “He didn’t blow us off; it never worked out.”
JD: Why didn’t it work out? One of you decided it wasn’t meant to be, you don’t have to give the details, but just say who it F’N was. Holy crap! But since you won’t and Daunte is telling everyone he did the canceling, I’m going with him.
EDWARDS: “Perception is perception and the conversation we had was a private one.”
JD: Really Herm, perception is perception? There would never be perception if you would just give a definitive F’N answer on SOMETHING! Yep, Clark, this is a guy who can get things done.
EDWARDS: “………and the conversation we had was a private one.”
JD: I guess Daunte didn’t know the conversation was private since he’s telling EVERYONE.
Q: Do you have a timetable when Larry Johnson may be back?
EDWARDS: “No, that’s in the commissioner’s hands, the league’s hands. They’ll do what is right for the league. I stand behind the commissioner 100% and I know this organization does and he’ll do what’s right.”
JD: Herm is just begging the commissioner to take LJ off his hands so can’t be blamed for getting rid of yet another weapon. Yep, Clark, you sure picked a winner.
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