I think i must have stopped after your first paragraph the first time. I reread it now and i believe there were 3 competent posts. just FYI.

I meant that we have two currently “relevant” picks from the trade, and, of course, they are “real people now”. My point was that it is impossible to gauge the actual success of any trade ahead of time.

You read the meaning into everyone else’s post, I’m surprised you didn’t see mine.

Good thing you don’t have any aggression built up!

You call me the moron b/c i think the trade was better for the team. But your argument has no base b/c you are saying “if this if that” but my whole thing was RIGHT NOW. We ARE a better team NOW than we would have been with out those draft picks. that is what i am saying. And furthermore You aren’t even making any argument that we would be better with JA you just used it as a ploy to go into “Fuck Herm and CP” which i am not arguing against, you are right there…..Fuck Jared Allen.

Travis “…no one can predict the value of one player versus two draft picks.”

It was three. With a change in position on another. and they are people now. Should i tell you their names again?

Mark F – One offensive touchdown against a terrible Raiders team does not a season make. I bet that Herm would have the Chiefs looking great against a tough high school team too. FatDan is a Herm lover and for the life of me I can’t figure out why. Prediction: Donkeys 34-Chiefs 24.

Read above comments meant for Chefs…Fuck CP and FUCK HERM TOO! But the fact is the JA trade made this team better THIS year! Silence is acceptance and no one argued the “Sacks don’t win games” quote….

ChiefJT – I’m just gonna say, finally a competent post.

Vegas Chief “HEY “””FATDAN”””
IF ALL YOU WANT TO SAY IS THAT IN ALL YOUR GAME REVIEWS FOR NOW ON,IS GOING TO CONTAIN THOSE THREE WORDS,”FUCK JARED ALLEN” THEN GO FUCK YOUR OWN “FAT ASS” YOU IDIOT AND I’LL INCLUDE THOSE SAME WORDS TO FOLLOW!!”

What the fuck are you smokin? Did you even read the article? Do you frequent this site? I mock the writers for their apparent love for JA. (No offense guys, i think you’re great most the time, just disagree here.) If you read what he wrote, then read what i wrote MAYBE JUST MAYBE you will see the sarcasm. I know its hard.

Vegas Chief AGAIN! “WE HAD THREE TIMES THE SACKS BY JARED ALLEN HIMSELF ALL OF LAST YEAR WITH TWO GAMES MISSED THAN WE WILL HAVE BY EVERYONE COMBINED ON THE WHOLE TEAM AFTER THIS YEAR IS DONE,,WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED BUILDING THIS TEAM AND YOUTH MOVEMENT AROUND SUCH A TALENTED STAR LIKE JARED ALLEN THE SAME WAY WE DID AROUND “DT”!!!!!!!!! QUEEN CARL AND SPERM EDWARDS HAVE TO GO AND WE NEED A BILL COWHER TO TAKE THE HELM AND TURN THIS TEAM INTO CHAMPIONS!!AS IT IS,,WE CAN’T EVEN GET ANYONE WITHIN 5 YARDS OF AN OPPOSING QUARTERBACK AND AS LONG AS THAT CONTINUES,THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE TO SHRED US WHEN WE GIVE THEM ALL DAY TO THROW THE BALL!! “GET REAL FATDAN””

So three times as many sacks = 2 more wins. WHOA thats worth it.

THE HOLE TEAM PLUS THE FANS = THE CHOKELAND FAIDERS

i cant believe that you are finally saying that herm shouldnt be head coach. what happened?? you used to get so pissed off when anyone said anything bad about herm. i still dont agree that herm lead us to the playoffs his first year. yes he was head coach at the time but the team was mostly the same as dv left for him (coaches, players etc.) since then the team has went down hill quick. but look back at the time dv was head coach, the afc west was the best in the nfl and we had to compete with very good teams. now the afc west is the laughing stock of the nfl….and guess what….we still cant win the west. amazing. if we even had a decent team we could walk away with the afc west. but we really suck right now. but just wait, when we get good all other teams in the west will be good too and it will still be hard to win the west. ironic isnt it??

Herm has now made it one playoff appearance in three seasons. He should admit his mistakes and take more drastic steps toward improvement instead of just rhetoric about one day we could maybe possibly be respectable. I understand the decision to get our draft picks as much playing time as possible for development and to evaluate who should stay around. Anyone think Leggett would get playing time if we dabbled in free agency. We should have gone after a few more linemen to at least introduce the system to some prospect starters or get playing time for B grade backups. We do have people starting on offensive line who could barely back up starters on other teams. If we can get back to running 150 plus yards a game whether its 100 with larry or at least 75 with charles and smith we could be top ten offense when its all said and done at least while Tony is still on the team. We have found good receivers but we still always need another and can’t have too many. I believe franklin has not been given enough credit and needs to be thrown to more down the field he knows the spread. We need linemen and linebackers and we could make the playoffs next year if we had a Jared Allen there i said it. I loved the man for his downright crazy attitude on the field. I know he loved the city and wanted to stay, but sometimes its just easier to let business be business.

We had a healthy trent green a very talented priest holmes plus an all pro one of the damn finest offensive lines to ever play the game. Herm didn’t ruin any of that we lost much of that after trent went down because we lost our line that he once trusted plus Holmes was gone. All we had left was an amazing middle age running back in his prime and the best tight end ever. Defense NO! Receivers No! We now have more threats on offense than we ever did except when Priest Morton Gonzo and Kenni were all on the same field.

We need one person to run the defense there has always been a conflict of interest on defense for the past three years. We need one person to run the offense. Herm should only do one of those things which is why I think he should take gunther’s job as a Defensive Coordinator and watch a real coach win with his help like back in Tampa. Gunther should just demote himself to fixing a linebacker corp he all but promised would be good at some point in the course of the rebuilding season. I don’t know who the head coach should be, but I think Chan Gailey has lived up to his end of the bargain in the second half of the season. Gailey has adapted to what we have and is coming around he deserves one more year… In my opinion. Honestly I wouldn’t be opposed to giving him a shot at the Head Coaching Job he probably manages a game better. I don’t think he has the same motivational standards as Herm does but if we keep the tenacity on on defense we can build with what we have even if everyone wants to nag at our ability to get sacks.

There is absolutely no doubt that Carl has made idiotic decisions in his tenure, from pissing off players, to making bad trades and signings, waiting too long to offer extensions, and bad drafts, but I’m not convinced this is one of them. True we could use him, but I fail to see the benefit this season. You also have to consider that he is playing with two pro-bowl tackles. He is a great player, but I think the comparison to DT is premature.

In the past, Lamar was heavily involved in the transactions that the team made. It is too early to label Clark as to the type of owner he will become.