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Hali Questions Second Half Offensive Strategy
December 15th, 2008 @ 7:27 am; ChiefsWarpath.com
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[Kansas City.com] Tamba Hali said the losing is getting to him, but that’s nothing new. He said something else irritated him during Sunday’s 22-21 implosion to San Diego – the decisions and play calling of Kansas City’s coaches.

“How we managed the game, I do question that,” said Hali, a third-year defensive end. “Those questions belong to the coaches.”

Hali said the Chiefs outplayed the Chargers. And until San Diego scored two touchdowns in less than a minute and took the lead with 36 seconds to play, it might have been difficult to question Kansas City’s approach. But Hali said coach Herm Edwards and offensive coordinator Chan Gailey shouldn’t have been calling so many pass plays in the second half, when the Chiefs led by as many as 18 points.

Hali said coaches should have called more rushing plays, particularly involving former Pro Bowler Larry Johnson. Instead, Johnson had four carries after halftime, and quarterback Tyler Thigpen passed 10 times. Hali said it was not smart to stop the clock with a three-possession lead.

“If he’s not running the ball,” Hali said, referring to Johnson, “and we’re still passing the ball, and the clock is stopping, these things – you can’t be surprised at times when they happen.”

“I’m not blaming the coaches. I’m saying the (game) management, at times, I feel – I’m speaking for me, not the team – I feel we should be running the ball. I don’t understand. That’s what I’m saying.”



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    49 Comments
    1. thank god this season is almost done!!! can anyone tell me why herm and carl are getting off easy and no one in the media is questioning these two mindless assholes!!!!

      Comment by geniegene — December 15, 2008 @ 7:43 am


    2. If you still believe that herm is a good coach for the chiefs please respond

      Comment by geniegene — December 15, 2008 @ 7:43 am


    3. Finally Herm’s absolute incompetence is being cast into the spotlight! Unfortunatly nothing will be done about it other than Hali will be replaced in the offseason. On this team we don’t fix the problem we get rid of the people that call out the man running this circus.

      Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — December 15, 2008 @ 8:17 am


    4. We suck so bad we made the main headlines on yahoo news

      Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — December 15, 2008 @ 8:48 am


    5. I guess that the fans are not speaking out enough, but what can we do. You hear how so many coaches are in trouble because the fans are protesting, but not Herm. Like the person said above Hali will be gone not Herm.

      Comment by Jennifer — December 15, 2008 @ 8:58 am


    6. I am sick and tired of all the praise that Herm is still getting and I am sick of Carl Peterson not even being attacked by anyone. Clark Hunt is doing the right thing by keeping quiet these days but as for us as chiefs fans even in the last two weeks we have the right to know where the hell this thing is going for next year. We need to be addressing issues like the Draft a new GM and a new coaching staff. We need to Clean house and get rid of all the negative energy in the system. Honestly the system is messed up and it starts with the top then we work our way down but I honestly think we dont want to hurt anybodys feelings because Carl and Herm are good friends. I will be honest again this GM is a Pussy because he hires friends and thats all fine and dandy but in this buisness you have to be cut throat its called tough love like when your kids make a mistake you love them and you want them to learn from their mistakes but I dont see anything like this happening here in Kansas City. We work hard all week and pay all our money to this team we love them and the most important thing as an organization is to make the fans happy because honestly we are the ones that pay their salary and they know it!!! We need to step up and speak up and attack the issues of this team I am sick of getting my heart ripped out every seson and now every week. We need CHANGE Now Not tomorrow if not we are the next Detroit the Joke of the NFL and honestly we are a diamond in the rough I see a bright Future but I will be honest again we need an extreme makeover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the CHIEFS and all the loyal fans but Damn how much more can we take of this SHIT!!!!!!!!!! God Bless Yall of the Faithful CHIEFSNATION !!! Our patience and heartache will pay off one day LOL!!!!!

      Comment by Adam Meyer — December 15, 2008 @ 9:39 am


    7. I entirely agree with Tamba Hali. Anyone who says we have a productive running game is blind. Thigpen has ran the ball enough to get us to a hundred yards in the past few games, but he is not larry johnson. We need to be using the workhorse. A true workhorse like Larry johnson needs 20 some touches to get to peak production. Very few instances has Larry ever been productive with less than 20 carries.

      We gave San Diego every opportunity to win this games. It’s like we strutted our stuff proved we were good enough to get ahead and then decided we don’t need to win easy. We need to rely on having the ball last.

      I don’t understand on a football weather type of day we only ran Larry 17 times and few of those we just horrible delay plays that don’t work on their front four. We did do a couple screens that I like, but have not worked yet.

      Herm should go, but I doubt he will. We need a fourth quarter coach. Not someone with the philosophy of getting ahead and letting off the gas. We are a team capable of putting 40 points up on weaker defenses. We showed that in the first half when we should have had a 31-3 lead. I don’t think San Diego could have came back from down 4 plus scores.

      Reason I don’t think Herm will leave: We know the weaknesses of the team and are starting to learn the strengths. Herm was given a confidence vote from Clark about improving more than winning. I don’t care what anyone has to say, because you can’t deny the improvement of this team throughout the year. We have found remarkable ways of finding defeat in the Jaws of Victory, but we still have found several ways to win just have not put them all together for 60 minutes. I would be enthralled to have a great coach who has a domination philosophy. I want a coach who wants to win by thirty points more than he wants to win by one. Winning by one point only states you can put up one more point than your opponent. Winning by thirty points usually means you can dominate all phases of the game. I want domination of all phases of the game.

      I think this game more than other losses really hurts the player confidence in the coaches. The player did what they were asked to do the majority of the game. A few mistakes in the end cost us, but we should never have been in the position of a possibility of losing with the way we played the first three quarters. On the other hand I’m sure the players also learned a lot more from this game than most others, especially Thigpen. You never ever throw into strong coverage on first down! Why can’t he find the sweet spot at the pylon, instead of always throwing the ball a yard wide. If your are just doing that play to keep the Defense in Check at least through it where the offensive player has a change like throwing a little long for an extremely fast player in Darling instead of out of bounds so far out even Plaxico could not have caught it.

      Comment by ChiefJT — December 15, 2008 @ 10:02 am


    8. ANOTHER GREAT FIRST HALF AND THEN EVERYTHING WENT TO HELL AFTER THE 3RD QUARTER. GREAT GAME BY TAMBA HALI. A ITTLE LATE IN THE SEASON BUT HE DID GOOD YESTERDAY. THE DEFENSE WAS LAYING FUCKERS OUT YESTERDAY BUT COULDN’T STOP THEM IN THE END. FUCKIN HERM YOU DUMB BASTARD

      Comment by calichiefsfan74 — December 15, 2008 @ 10:08 am


    9. I understand we are rebuilding but there is no excuse for us blowing so many games late. I don’t agree with Tamba I think our pass plays were just not creative enough in the second half. It seems like a trend when we put up points in the first but struggle mightily in the second. It boils down to coaching. We could easily have 5-6 wins if not more. Edwards is a horrible at securing victories. Peterson needs to be fired last game of the year. I would love to see Schottenheimer as our GM and maybe he can persuade Cowher to come over.

      Comment by Nate — December 15, 2008 @ 10:15 am


    10. I’m glad to see players speaking out about the coaching decisions. Herms sucks and we all know that “they called a pass play into the endzone (out of bounds)when it was 3rd and 1 on about the 20 yard line”. Perfect example of how to lose a game. The only things that don’t suck is the quarterback and the recievers. Hali sucks and our defense sucks besides the corners. Surtain started celebrating the interception at the 5 yard line and Phillip Rivers caught him. What an old dumbass. He also got burned on the big pass plays. Look at River’s numbers and there is no way you can say our defence is even decent. It’s the worst defense I’ve ever seen and the records we’re breaking confirm that. I’m disgusted by the whole frnchise’s attempt at calling this “thing” a pro football team.

      Comment by Rocky — December 15, 2008 @ 10:25 am


    11. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE OWNER ON THISE,CLARK HUNT DOESNT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WINNING,IF HE DID THEY WOULD OF BROUGHT IN SOME GOOD FREE AGENTS IN THE OFF SEASON INSTED OF GIVING US THIS YOUTH MOVEMENT WITCH IS A PILE OF SHIT,IF HE REALLY WANTS TO WIN WE WOULDNT HAVE THE LOWIEST PAYROLL IN FOOTBALL BY ALOT, THIS GUYS A FUCKING JOKE DOES HE EVAN COME TO THE GAMES.WELL SEE WHAT DIRECTION HE WANTS TO TAKE THIS DISGRACE OF A FOOTBALL TEAM,IF HE FINALLY DOES THE RIGHT THING AND FIRES CARL PETERSON AND HERM EDWARDS.LETS GET RID OF THIS GIMMICK OFFENSE,DAMN THIS IS THE NFL NOT COLLAGE.I WANT A OWNER WHO CARES ABOUT WINNING LIKE JERRY JONES SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT HIM BUT HE CARES ABOUT WINNING MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT CLARK HUNT.SELL THE TEAM.

      Comment by Chris — December 15, 2008 @ 10:54 am


    12. To ChiefsWarpath.com Administration:

      Please give much thought to re-naming the website a more fitting title such as:

      Blamingchiefs.com
      Igotnothingexcepthermsux.com
      Crybabynaysayers.com
      Iamathorninthesideofrealchiefsfans.com
      Ifyouwanttofeellikeshitreadtheseposts.com
      Whowantstobepositivewhenyoucanbenegative.com
      Itmustbehermandcarlsfault-nottheplayers.com

      What once was one of my fave places to visit on the web has sadly become a gathering of angry one-sided ‘fans’. With fans like that, who needs haters.

      Even when something good happens, like a win, you still bitch and say that “it’s just the raiders”! OMG!! You guys have lost your minds and this site is going to hell.

      Thanks Mr. Negatives

      Tamba’s upset b/c he knows that the defense let the win slip away. It’s football, it happens. But when crap like that unfolds in the last few minutes, it’s gonna be on the D’s shoulders. Yet another chapter in the 2008 season and another lesson learned for our rookies. I’m just thankful we didn’t have anything riding on it like the Chargers did. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, that’s not ugly enough for those of you who see the glass half empty ALL THE TIME.

      We all know if we would have made that field goal you’d still be bitching today about how we almost lost the game, herm sux, carl sux, blah blah blah blah blah.

      BLAH!!!!

      Is there anyone who reads this site who agree with me or am I the only dumb-ass still dangling on that’s not blaming and yelling and angry and pesimistic? C’mon! At least we’re rebuilding, some teams have the same record or worse than we do and do not have the personnel that we have! We’re gonna be the SHIT next year and the next year, and the next year!!

      Sorry to throw that splash of optimism in this site, it’s not what you’re used to I know, so here…

      Herm and Carl suck and everything bad is their fault!!! DERRRR!!!

      Better?!?!?

      Comment by Tammy H — December 15, 2008 @ 11:06 am


    13. For as many calls that went our way by the officials yesterday, the one that came back to bite us in the ass was the COMPLETE BS call that Charles was short of that first down… I’m sure anyone that watched the game knows what I am talking about. They marked him over a foot short and that is just unacceptable.. What the fuck refs, you are blatenty retarded obviously. People that watch the game on TV can make better play calls than you fucking morons can!

      Herm Edwards is terrible at calling games I agree. Tamba is just doing what everyone else already knows, including the other players. No one stands up for anything on this team because they are all good spirited guys and thats why our chemistry is so good. I do not wany any of that to change. The coaching staff needs to take these comments as “CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISM”. The dude just wants to win for Christ’s sake! Is he wrong to express his emotion that I’m sure has been bottled up for some time now?

      Not running LJ at least 20 times a game is not how this team should be playing football anyways. What a joke.. we should have at least 4 other wins this year, maybe more. Its not just the players that need to learn how to go 60 minutes. Its the coaching staff who needs to learn how to coach a full 60 minutes too!

      MARTY AND BILL FTW!

      Comment by RednGold4LIFE — December 15, 2008 @ 11:17 am


    14. you’re kidding right were going to be the shit next year what makes you think that? were rebuilding what like the lions the rams? Some of us real fans see it how it is a poorly put together team from top to bottom.your optimism is fine for you but for a lot of us or most of us there’s no silver lining in losing.

      Comment by Chris — December 15, 2008 @ 11:26 am


    15. I missed the game yesterday, and then there was a software problem with my ‘DVR’/'Tivo’ whatever, so it didn’t record the game.
      But I can pull up the box score and the drive charts from the game and see that it was a typical Chiefs game. Get a good lead and then do some ‘adjustments’ at half time to let the other team back in it, pass when we should run… run when we should pass, etc….and force the game to come down to a field goal (attempt) at the end.
      Jesus, what a frustrating season.
      And for those bashing Tali and the defense…. there is only so much you can do (especially when the offense goes 3 and out almost every time in the 2nd half). And when the Def Coor is calling soft zone def play calls the other team will pick you apart over and over and over… it happens every game. God I hate the Tampa 2 def…. every team in the leauge has figured it out and it doesn’t work anymore…..

      Comment by Johnny 5 — December 15, 2008 @ 11:30 am


    16. Tammy I typically agree with what you have to say and share your love for this team, but have you been drinking already today? There is a very good reason why these wins keep slipping away in the second half. Why is that? The Coaching Staff Not Making Necessary Adjustments At Halftime! The other teams make adjustments we keep doing what we did in the first half and it all goes down the shitter. That is the only arguement I can really make.

      Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — December 15, 2008 @ 11:48 am


    17. Herm shold have ran the ball more after half time. This was a poor example of time management. The Chargers would have never had enough time on the clock to win the game……..New Coach!!!!!

      Comment by Brian calvin — December 15, 2008 @ 11:48 am


    18. Perhaps they should remove all of the scoreboards at Arrowhead. Then just tell Herm and Chan at halftime that the game hasn’t started yet and the scores is 0-0 and they’d better use their first half game plan.

      Comment by Johnny 5 — December 15, 2008 @ 11:57 am


    19. For once I am finally glad I live in Denver. When the Donkey’s game came on, cutting off the last four minutes of the Chiefs game, I thought we had it. No problem, grab a brew from the fridge and rejoice in a rare victory. Much to my surprise the ticker at the bottom of the screen proclaimed the Chargers as victors. I had to call my family back home to make sure my eyes weren’t lying to me. Seriously, what the fuck?

      Comment by Weezy — December 15, 2008 @ 11:57 am


    20. NCCHIEFSFAN

      Not drinking already! We’re having ourselves another future Chiefs fan, so none of grannie’s homemade eggnog this year:-)

      Thank you for saying something other than “herm sux or carl sux”! Geeeess. Oh yeah I forgot, “Clar Cunt” sux too…hehehehe

      I know the 3rd qtr has been our Achilles Heel, but we didn’t have a terrible 3rd qtr yesterday, we had a terrible last couple of minutes…perhaps other heartbreaking losses (5 out of our 12 losses were within 4 pts or less and one was 7 pts) have–and I hear ya on that.

      Thanx for hearing me out and for sharing my love for the Chiefs. I’m excited to see what transpires over the down-season…what coaches keep their jobs, etc.

      What’s the word on the street with Gun? I know he’s well-loved, but are these stats gonna hang him? Is it his coaching personnel/ensemble?

      Comment by Tammy H — December 15, 2008 @ 12:10 pm


    21. the dolphins are a real rebuilding team….

      Comment by mario from miami — December 15, 2008 @ 12:15 pm


    22. Its easy Tamba Hali……The play calling didnt change because Herm wanted to leave enough time for the Chargers to come back. Long story short. He is tanking the season. He is feeding the MEDIA that BS about getting wins is better than getting a higher draft pick but the SMART Chief’s fans knows whats going on. He think we need one more year to draft players and we will be on top which is probably true but what he is not telling us is that we also need a Head Coach to get the players to that level.

      Comment by J Rock in Texas — December 15, 2008 @ 12:30 pm


    23. Tell me again how having even MORE rookies than what we already do is going to help us?!?

      We need some free agents, but what we really need is a few more wins to make it look a little better for them to come on over and be a part of us taking over the AFC West. The AFC West is up for the taking, let’s be serious, and we need FAs to help us do that, not s crapload more rookies!!

      I think we can sell that, with the rookies we have, having Tony G happy to be a part of this offense again, with the Donkeys, Chargers, and Faders all losing their shine, I think we still can sell our plan to some takers…The AFC West can be ours!!! Shit, how many more damn rookies do ya think we need???!!?!? WTF!!!! Tanking? Hell No!!

      Comment by Tammy H — December 15, 2008 @ 1:23 pm


    24. I’ve never been one for airing out the teams dirty laundry to the media, but at this point someone has to say something. Hali is right on when it come to the piss-poor play calling that lost us this game and so many others. We run when we should pass. We pass when we should run. Why weren’t they interested is running down that clock when we were ahead by so much in the 4th. Oh well what do I know? I’m just a whiner.

      Comment by Andy O — December 15, 2008 @ 1:40 pm


    25. Maybe you are a whiner, but it seems that you’re blaming the offense for not calling the right plays when it’s the defense who didn’t stop Rivers and the Chargers!! I still love the Chiefs, but not simply stopping them and/or making some plays at the end doesn’t have SHIT to do with how they were coached or what offensive plays they ran.

      You can coach someone to death but it doesn’t mean he’s gonna sack Rivers or get the ball from the reciever, make the play, what have you. Does it not come down to defensive plays in the final few minutes?? Why is this friggin’ news? Our D is the worst in the league! Let me get this right again…it’s the offense’s fault for not stopping the Chargers from coming back yesterday?!? Hmmm…

      Tamba’s awesome, but he’s speaking out of his own frustration right now. He’ll probably apologize later on this week, he’s a great guy. He knows they let the win slip away and it hurts like hell. Let’s not make it anymore than what it is.

      …”and if it wasn’t so windy yesterday, then Barth could’ve got both of those fg attempts…so, it’s really Canada’s fault, because it’s their fault that such a giant cold mass was pushing down on us and colliding with warm air and making winds”…

      So, I blame Canada.

      Comment by Tammy H — December 15, 2008 @ 2:21 pm


    26. I find it funny that Tamba Hali is calling out people and yet he has been invisible all year except for this last game against the Chargers. HOW ABOUT YOU IMPROVE “YOUR” GAME TAMBA HALI!. We have 8 sacks for the whole season THE WHOLE TEAM. A pretty good DE or LB will get like what? 11 or 13. Joey Porter has 17. I’m glad to see that Jared Allen was a bust for Minnesota this year. That prick left way early. The Chiefs were working out a long term deal with him and he split anyway. And fuck the “supposed” Chief fan that will tell me- “Do You Blame Him?!” That’s traitor talk, go be a Faider fan or a Horse Headed motherfucker for Denver.

      Comment by Chief Tom — December 15, 2008 @ 3:17 pm


    27. Much of this does fall on the offense and management. Yet again the offense produced 0 points in the second half. They also had nothing but short possessions, most of which were 3-and-outs. This continuous problem isn’t just lack of adjustment, it’s wrong adjustment, and Herm’s been doing it for 8 years straight, yet still has a job.

      How can this man be THIS bad EVERY game with timeouts and clock management? How could we be out of timeouts with a 21-10 lead, only to desperately need one when we somehow blew it? He must have one hell of a panic streak in him, which is a terrible trait for a leader.

      I don’t think Herm could put away an opponent if his fig newtons depended on it.

      It’s amazing how many free passes Herm gets because he’s a nice guy. Good thing more people are getting over that and realizing it take more than being “likable” to be an effective head coach. Thanks Hali. He’s the most inept gameday coach in recent history, yet has had a job for 8 years straight. Damn cronyism.

      Comment by VLTC — December 15, 2008 @ 3:21 pm


    28. Dude, Jared Allen has 14.5 sacks for Minnesota this year and has been a force in almost every game (I’ve watched most of them). He’s been responsible for more pressure than our entire D-Line.

      It’s hard to blame just one side on the Jared Allen thing. Peterson pushed him away with cold negotiations shortly after the DUI stuff. On the other hand, Jared had unrealistically high expectations coming off suspensions and suspect behavioral issues. A year after proving he cleaned up his act, bridges were already sufficiently burned that Carl decided to dump him instead of trying to put away his ego and repair the relationship from that point forward.

      Comment by VLTC — December 15, 2008 @ 3:27 pm


    29. Attention everyone another completly ignorant comment from Chief Tom! Dude where do you get all this bullshit that you love posting on the internet? Jared Allen is a bust for Minnesota? are you kidding me? His prescense alone has improved the play of their entire D-line. If the media wasn’t so busy sucking off the d-line of the titans maybe you would know this.

      Comment by NCCHIEFSFAN — December 15, 2008 @ 3:37 pm


    30. Tammy, i love reading what fellow chiefs fans have to say, regardless of if i agree or not. I live in N.C. and any chiefs discussion is normally a good one because it’s pretty rare out here. That being said, it was partly the offenses fault that we didn’t stop them at the end, and here’s why. We were up 21-3 in the second half. Even in herm was being conservative as hell and just ran it for the sake of running the clock, we get a win. If the offense could’ve sustained any bit of a drive and moved the chains in the second half, we win. Everyone who watches football knows(i think so) that the longer your defense is on the field, the worse it is going to perform and it’s almost exponential. Think of these running and grinding teams that just wear defenses down over the course of the game. I swear, it felt like the minute we got the ball, we just gave it back. Even a great defense would biff it if they had to be on the field and defend that many drives. It was a matter of time. Our defense played great for 55 minutes. Really, look at the stats, and if u watched the game u don’t have to, but our defense looked great for the majority of the game. I blame the coaches. How many times this year have we seen our team outperform the opponent and get a big lead, only to watch it dwindle away. A perfect example of poor coaching was that fake punt. A coaches job is to get the player’s prepared and put them in the best position to make good plays. So, when you’re nursing a double digit lead, in the second half, with a short 4 down to pick up, and they’re punting, you think they might fake it? If they wouldn’t want to in that situation, i can’t think of one in which they would. Dbowe is my favorite player(if u couldn’t tell) and he dropped the ball yesterday(literally and figuratively), but it’s tough to fault your young stars when they don’t get the ball. He had the td, but i think we need to get a player like that more implemented into the offense.
      I’m really sick of going rounds with the herm supporters, i feel like this loss made things clear. Regardless of who you blame(if you feel blame should be cast on anyone) or who u want to coach, etc. It’s clear that we all are just sick of sundays like that. I made a joke at halftime, i told my girlfriend that if we lose this game, i wouldn’t be surprised. It just sucks when you watch a pro sports team, and can tell what they’re gonna do, and how it’s gonna pan out. I get a joy out of being wrong with coaching moves in sports, it reminds me of why i have my dayjob. I don’t care who’s coaching.

      Seriously, i dont’ care if we get john maddens big ass on the sideline. I just want a decent product to watch on sundays. I don’t want to walk into the gym for my sunday morning workout without feeling proud to sport my dbowe jersey and chiefs hat. I just want to be excited about the chiefs again. Chieftom, jt or jake, we’ve had our bouts about this crap, really though i just want my team back.

      Fondest memory of growing up, watching christian okoye and derrick thomas and deron cherry. Chiefs football used to be something. I try and tell people out here in carolina, but it seems silly. Eh, what do i know,

      -depressed dbowe82

      Comment by dbowe82 — December 15, 2008 @ 3:42 pm


    31. jared allen? bust for minnesota? ok, ok, ok, so what exactly do you think they’re expectations were when i signed him? 35 40 sacks? 55 interceptions? curious

      Comment by dbowe82 — December 15, 2008 @ 3:49 pm


    32. I couldnt believe we lost yesterday…i turned off the game to go play some basketball at the gym then come back home to see we lose by 1 point. WHAT THE F! If you say thats not the coaches fault F YOU you know nothing. our team is good enough to win games, i think we’ve proved that, its just herm doesnt have a brain.

      and again CHIEF TOM stop posting about Jared Allen he tore up one of the best performing qbs this year last night. and for those dumbasses who say “OH, HE HAS 2 PRO-BOWL DTS” STFU he did the same thing last year on the underperforming CHEFS! WHO NOW HAVE A TOTAL OF 8 SACKS! 8!! yes i said the CHEFS! THEY DONT DESERVE THE “I”

      Comment by chefs — December 15, 2008 @ 4:12 pm


    33. FIRST TO POST THIS!!!

      CARL PETERSON RESIGNED 15 MINUTES AGO!!!

      OMG I am so fucking happy right now…

      From KCCHIEFS.com
      Clark Hunt Announces the Resignation of Carl Peterson
      Dec 15, 2008, 4:17:51 PM

      Kansas City Chiefs Chairman Clark Hunt today announced that Carl Peterson will step down as President, General Manager and Chief Executive Officer at the end of the 2008 season.

      “On behalf of my family and the entire Kansas City Chiefs organization, I want to thank Carl for his two decades of service to the Chiefs,” Hunt said. “Both Carl and I agreed that immediately initiating the search for the next Chiefs General Manager would be the best thing for the future of the organization, and he will be resigning following the 2008 season.”

      Peterson joined the Chiefs in 1989, and guided the club through one of the most successful eras in its history. During his 20 years at the helm, the Chiefs amassed a 176-141-1 record, won the AFC West four times and reached the AFC Championship Game in 1993.

      “I am proud of my association with the Kansas City Chiefs and our many accomplishments over the last 20 years,” Peterson said. “I thank the Hunt family for the opportunity to lead the Chiefs organization and sincerely appreciate all the coaches, players, administrators and Chiefs employees with whom I’ve had the pleasure of working in my time here. Most importantly, I want to thank Chiefs fans around the country for their passionate support through the years. Chiefs fans are the finest in all of professional football.”

      Hunt said the search for a new General Manager will begin immediately. Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer Denny Thum will serve as the Chiefs interim President and General Manager.

      Comment by RednGold4LIFE — December 15, 2008 @ 4:35 pm


    34. Well it has happened!! According to kcchiefs.com King Carl has RESIGNED!!! Is this news everybody wants to hear? Will this change anything?? We’re going to find out.

      Comment by Bsouth — December 15, 2008 @ 4:35 pm


    35. I think this little tidbit over at Fark says it all….thanks a lot Herm and Carl.

      “Up 11 wih 4:55 left in the game, most NFL teams would feel confident about getting a win. Most teams, however, aren’t the Chiefs”

      Comment by Kansas City Krusher — December 15, 2008 @ 4:37 pm


    36. Yeah Jared Allen had like 3 sacks in a game a couple weeks ago so no he was not a bust for Minnesota.

      Comment by Stich — December 15, 2008 @ 4:44 pm


    37. dbowe82~~

      I was dating a Montana lover back in 93 and we started watching the Chiefs then…my love for the Chiefs has now been 15 years and growing strong. I’ve been with my husband for 10 years and I turned him on to the Chiefs then and now he’s a die-hard Arrowhead bleeder too. Going to Arrowhead will do that to ya!! (he was a former Browns and Raiders fan!!!) Neil Smith, DT, those was some good times:-)

      But we’re the closest now to tasting that (in terms of talent) as we ever have been!! D Bowe is amazing and we’re SOOOO lucky to have him!! Don’tcha just know that the AFC West is for the taking and that we CAN do it next year and the year after, etc. with our talent!!

      And now that “King Carl” has resigned, everything should just fall magically together, right?! I’m being a little facetious, but I can’t help it! So many wanted Carl’s ass, well, here ya go! And next year when we’re taking the AFC West, it’ll be ‘because Carl’s gone’ and not because of the fact that some crazy ass shit happened this season (3rd string QB, injuries upon injuries, LJ suspensions, etc) that just can’t happen again!! I’m glad that out of Herm and Carl, that it’s Carl that’s gone. Contrary to popular belief, I think the players like Herm and that’s what matters.

      I’m just glad we have two more games to watch. It makes me happy to see Tony, Tyler, D Bowe, and crew having fun on their offensive series. Did you see how much fun they were having?!?

      I don’t live in the KC area, has Tony ever publicly came out and apologized for wanting to bail when ironically he’s putting up some hella numbers ever since Tyler’s come on?

      Is there a shot in hell that Marty or Bill Cowher could be our GM? Would it take too much time away from Dick Vermeil’s wine making? LOL

      Comment by Tammy H — December 15, 2008 @ 5:46 pm


    38. Tammy,

      Maybe Herm has a website you can visit. I’m sure thing will be much more positive there, especially in the Herm bashing category. If you don’t like the bashing here, it’s an easy fix, stop coming here!!

      Comment by Mark F. — December 15, 2008 @ 6:14 pm


    39. I find it funny that Tamba Hali is calling out people and yet he has been invisible all year except for this last game against the Chargers. HOW ABOUT YOU IMPROVE “YOUR” GAME TAMBA HALI!. We have 8 sacks for the whole season THE WHOLE TEAM. A pretty good DE or LB will get like what? 11 or 13. Joey Porter has 17. I’m glad to see that Jared Allen was a bust for Minnesota this year. That prick left way early. The Chiefs were working out a long term deal with him and he split anyway. And fuck the “supposed” Chief fan that will tell me- “Do You Blame Him?!” That’s traitor talk, go be a Faider fan or a Horse Headed motherfucker for Denver.

      Comment by Chief Tom — December 15, 2008 @ 3:17 pm

      This dude obviously doesnt know what he’s talking about…Jared Allen a bust? Look up some stats before you run your trap. He has more sacks than the Chiefs alone and Im sure he will make the Pro Bowl again. He is currently ranked 5th in the LEAGUE.

      Comment by J Rock in Texas — December 15, 2008 @ 6:53 pm


    40. Tammy,
      Respectfully:
      If they were winning, these “fans” would be coming on here talking about how bad we kicked their ass. However, we are not winning and therefore there are very few positives to talk about. You can’t be satisfied with “these young players played well today and learned something even though we lost”. Champions have to have the mindset that losing is unexceptable! Yes it is going to happen from time to time. Football is the ultimate team sport and this “team” lost that game yesterday. The defense gave up too many points, the offense didn’t score enough and the special teams missed field goals and gave up too much yardage. The offense didn’t get the first down on 3rd and 1, the defense didn’t stop their offense in the last 3 minutes and the special teams gave up an onside kick. This was a team loss.

      Well coached teams don’t have players going to the media and complaining about the coaching and future HOF players begging to leave. The “fans” on this site just want to talk about their team, if all we’re doing is losing then negative comments can be expected. Even Herm has admitted that he didn’t expect this kind of season even though it is a “rebuilding” year. I’ve been a hardcore Chiefs fan for nearly 40 years, this is the worst they have ever been. The way to turn the attitude of this site around is to win more often. Winning is contagious, even for fans.

      Comment by Jeff in VA — December 15, 2008 @ 7:25 pm


    41. Jeff in VA
      Respectfully as well:

      I just get so frustrated with the one-liners and the “herm sux/carl sux”, if that’s all they got, then that’s shit.

      I don’t even want to hear my same rantings, I just want to hear SOME rantings other than the one-liners, then at least I know that there’s something more invested here than just saying some stupid-ass one-liner!!!

      To me, there was nothing more frustrating in the election season than the same deal; “Obama sucks/McCain Sucks”…you knew if you encountered someone who threw this at ya right off the bat that there was little to know chance in hell of having a debate of substance.

      Same thing here!! Dammit!! I’m not the Herm Fan of The Year!! I don’t want to be thrown to that conclusion simply because I do not want to be a pessimist, and I think it appears that the players like playing for him.

      Shit! In some respects I can’t help but think that this team this year has been hit with so many RARE blows and I truly believe that it is more talented than the team that got Herm to the playoffs his first year at 9-7.

      You’re right…winning is contagious…but I tell ya, it was very ugly to get on here and read the title “It’s only the Raiders” in regards to our win over them the other week. That was put out by the site in an effort to stir the ugliness and it worked. Yuk. To me, that just took the cake.

      Like I told dbowe82, I’ve been on board since 93 and I’m dying, just dying…although last year felt worse for some reason to me…There’s no doubt the season’s over. Optimism seems natural at this point for me. I guess it’s relatively easy to be that way when I know that they legitamitly have something to build on, it’s not just a cliche, we’ve seen it. It’s there. I’m proud to say that 6 or 7 of our losses were “this close”…can Seattle/Rams/Bengalls say the same?

      Trust me, get me a half an hour after the game and I’m not so pretty:-)

      Thanx for hearing me out.

      Comment by Tammy H — December 15, 2008 @ 7:58 pm


    42. Tammy,
      I hear ya. Everyone on here is frustrated. Everyone has different ways of venting. The election has really put everyone on edge and very passionate about their feelings. It has even gotten many people who usually remain quiet, to speak up.

      Positive comments are allowed on this site too–I think. :) I just think people are having a hard time finding anything positive to say. If we were having a good year, people on here would be talking about how bad the other AFC West teams are-just dogging them. No one is even talking about how bad they are, because we are so bad. Winning cures everything. That’s what we need.

      Comment by Jeff in VA — December 15, 2008 @ 9:25 pm


    43. tammy, u sound like you’ve read way to many self help books

      Comment by dbowe82 — December 16, 2008 @ 12:07 am


    44. I was devastated Sunday after the game and wanted everyone fired, GM, coaches and all the players, hell I wouldn’t have cared if the team got sold. Some good news happend Monday though, Peterson is OUT!!! I’m no Herm supporter either but with all the young talent we have, we almost need him next year, he has found young DBs that will be good in years to come. I think Gun has to get fired after the defense this year and that will be our “excuse” this year. If next year looks anything like this, then Herm will go.

      Comment by H2O — December 16, 2008 @ 4:39 am


    45. dbowe82, I’m insulted that you think I would be reading anything other than football news during football season! No time for self help books, but you might pick one up since you labled yourself as “depressed dbowe82″. Good luck with that:-)

      Jeff in VA– Let’s win these last 2! GO CHIEFS!!!

      H2O—Well put indeed:-)

      All I want for Christmas is for Peterson’s replacement to be an outstanding choice that we all rally around.

      (Well, and a Flowers Jersey size L) thanx

      Comment by Tammy H — December 16, 2008 @ 8:51 am


    46. Okay, so I was wrong about the Jared Allen bust thing. Credit goes to VLTC. The rest of you guys- good job copying everything VLTC said even though he had already pointed out that I was wrong. I just haven’t heard much of anything about Jared Allen this season (my fault). It’s the first time I have been inaccurate on this web-site so back off wolves. I’m sure media is much to blame for constantly beating the dead horse- Plaxico Burress, T.O., and the whole freaking Cowboys franchise, or anybody that has shot or has been shot by someone.

      I WAS WRONG!!! Oh, and F**K YOU JROCK FROM FAGGIT LAND.

      Comment by Chief Tom — December 16, 2008 @ 3:43 pm


    47. tammy, i care about whether or not we WIN THE GAME, there seems to be a trend of people that are satisfied with “effort” and f***&ing i can’t believe i’m about to type this, “seeing how much fun they’re having”. I don’t get pleasure from seeing grown a$$ athletes lose, but f***ng have fun doing it. i am speechless.

      Comment by dbowe82 — December 16, 2008 @ 7:35 pm


    48. What would Brian Boitano do? He’d say “I want Bill Cowher for a coach” or “fire Herm the Worm” or “I have sand in my man-gina”.

      Comment by Weezy — December 18, 2008 @ 1:51 pm


    49. ha, weezy, the last comment sounds more tammy h than boitono

      Comment by dbowe82 — December 18, 2008 @ 3:31 pm


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