hip hip hooray Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Dave S — January 23, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by nt7332 — January 23, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

what took so long! !!!!!!!

Comment by nt7332 — January 23, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

YYYEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by chieffogg — January 23, 2009 @ 5:15 pm

HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!!!!!! I CAN NOW DIG MY CHIEFS GEAR OUT OF THE CLOSET!!!!!!! MY FINAL CHRISTMAS WISH JUST CAME TRUE!!!!!!

Comment by dennis — January 23, 2009 @ 5:18 pm

The grass isn’t always greener on the other side of the fence, hopefully the new guy will have fresh ideas and aggressive personality…and not some has been

Comment by Adam, Wichita — January 23, 2009 @ 5:29 pm

Edwards was a good guy. With that said, he isn’t a good head coach. Obviously he is a great coordinator or secondary coach. I have heard two names come up, Haley of AZ and Shanahan. That would be very weird to have rat face as our coach, but he is good. Haley is young and is a great coordinator. I agree with Adam. Maybe a new up an coming guy would be best for the team.

Comment by Nick — January 23, 2009 @ 5:45 pm

Im down for giving Haley a shot. I mean FFS… he got Arizona’s offense to roll and did his part in getting them to the SB. Granted he has a veteran QB and 2 of the best recievers in the league at his disposal, however we already have 1 of those pieces in DBowe.

If we could address some defensive needs and another Offensive linemen either in the draft AFTER the first pick we have… then we could draft Michael Crabtree and have him opposite DBowe and have our very own Boldin/Fitzgerald like tandem.

Comment by RednGold4LIFE — January 23, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

HELL TO THE YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr “I’ll let my work for itself” It has spoken.

Comment by iam — January 23, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

speak

Comment by iam — January 23, 2009 @ 5:58 pm

ESPN reports that Shanahan is the new HC…..

Comment by JRock in Texas — January 23, 2009 @ 6:06 pm

Too bad they couldn’t do this a few days sooner before Gunther quit. If he runs the D he wants to run, instead of what the head coach is making him run, he is a good D coordinator.

Comment by CB — January 23, 2009 @ 6:07 pm

Thank god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by jimcarey29 — January 23, 2009 @ 6:07 pm

Never mind. They said he may be in line for the new HC. I was so excited to see Herm gone and overlooked the question mark at the end (Edwards out…..Shanahan in?)

Comment by JRock in Texas — January 23, 2009 @ 6:08 pm

Its funny how Shanahan name is popping up and he couldnt win in Arrowhead when he was a Bronco.

Comment by JRock in Texas — January 23, 2009 @ 6:10 pm

I am a Chiefs fan through good and bad times, It saddens me that Herm won’t get a chance to finish what he started but I also know this was the right choice. Herm might not have the win/lose record to speak highly for what he did in Kansas City. But this team is going to be great because of the ground work and foundation he helped lay. Our Secondary is set for the next 10 years; and the other young guys he found will make the Chiefs Great again. I wish we could find a way to get him to stay on as player personal / D-Backs Coach… He might not have been the best head coach, however Herm Edwards has a tremendous amount of Character and is one of the most stand up men you could ever have the chance to know

Comment by MarineRunner — January 23, 2009 @ 6:31 pm

Anyone but Shanahan he has been the face of the enemy for to long. He is a Bronco / Donkey and does not belong any where near the Chiefs. Go Chiefs win without an X-Bronco please.

Comment by Chief Brad — January 23, 2009 @ 7:03 pm

Shannahan is NOT the Head Coach like some jackass earlier said. Get your facts straight before you start doing sideline reports like a retarded Ed Werder. Anyways, Todd Haley and Mike Shannahan are the only 2 names I’ve heard that are in the running right now and it seems as though the media is saying that KC is “close” to a deal with Leatherface to be the next Chiefs coach. I don’t know how long this one is gonna take to soak in ’cause that just does not sound right whatsoever. I really would like to see Todd Haley be KC’s next coach but my name ain’t Scott Pioli and I dont own a NFL franchise lol.

Comment by Marques W. — January 23, 2009 @ 7:18 pm

MarineRunner, you did a fine job of speaking the truth my friend. Herm Edwards did INDEED lay the foundation and ground work for our very near future. Let us please not forget a very important tidbit of information all of you who think Herm is the source of all our problems: Herm only did this whole rebuilding debacle (if you will) because and ONLY because he had Hunt behind him.

I love the Hunt family and I’m digging Pioli, but it’s kinda crappy to have a guy head-up something as crappy as rebuilding an old-ass roster, just to hang ‘em for it when the going gets tough (as anyone knew it would). How is that okay?!?!?

I hope our young players can adjust to all of these changes, it’s frigging overwhelming and it’s not even done yet!! Sorry, but I think he should have been able to stay one more year. Just one more year. We can only go up from here, and he might as well have gotten the credit when we have a good year next year. It was his doings afterall. Geeesss.

PS Would Lamar have done this? Harsh?!? No?!?!

Comment by Tammy H — January 23, 2009 @ 7:24 pm

“we play to win the game” ~ Herman Edwards

Comment by vigil — January 23, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

Tammy,

I agree with you, but I am a Chiefs fan through thick and thin. So no matter who they bring in I will support and look forward to seeing this team great again. And bringing the tradition of Chiefs football back and making Arrowhead the most disruptive place for anyone that comes in as it once was, Get ready 2009 is going to be a Great year

Comment by MarineRunner — January 23, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

Marques W.,

I made the mistake and put that comment on post 11 (6:06PM) but I corrected myself on post 14 (6:08PM).

Comment by JRock in Texas — January 23, 2009 @ 8:08 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I love, love, love the Chiefs and I am ultimately behind them all the way, no matter what! And our future looks SOOOOO bright, 2009 is just the beginning!

I felt relieved when Carl stepped down, but I feel just a little uneasy about Herm, what he did to get us here, and what ended up happening to him directly related to it. I think the players liked him too, so that really sucks for the young guys…shoot that’s pretty much the whole team! This is the reason why no one wants to totally re-vamp a team, there’s gonna be a few bad years, and you may or may not lose your job because of it….yikes.

However…

I have to trust Pioli:-)

Man that sucks that Gun left, I read that he only did zone because of loyalty to Herm, if he could’ve he would’ve chosen to put more pressure on the qb.

Go Chiefs! We can only go up from here; the future looks bright with our talent and Pioli steering the way.

Comment by Tammy H — January 23, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

“You play to win the game” Good move Clark

Comment by Dave S — January 23, 2009 @ 8:21 pm

We should bring in Bill Cower

Comment by Chief Brad — January 23, 2009 @ 8:23 pm

I am sure Pioli did a thorough evaluation of Herm Edwards. Even with all the negative comments (on most Chiefs sites) about Herm over the past couple years, WE didn’t fire Herm, Scott Pioli did. Herm is a nice guy and the players always like him. But that doesn’t make you a good coach.

Regardless of his effort to rebuild this team, he cost us some games this year (and last year). Any coach could have shipped off the old players and drafted the players we got. The fact is, we only won 2 games this year. Only one coach in the history of the league has ever survived that kind of record.

Comment by Jeff in VA — January 23, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

Mother Theresa was a great person but would have probably been a horrible head coach. Thanks to Pioli for finally making the obvious decision.

Comment by VLTC — January 23, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

I should add that I think Clark should have sped up the GM hiring process. The fact that we are just now firing the HC puts us behind the other 8 to 10 teams who fired and already hired their new head coach. We missed out on some of those available coaches. But, I will support whoever (even Shanahan) Pioli picks.

Comment by Jeff in VA — January 23, 2009 @ 8:51 pm

I SURE HOPE TONY G STICKS AROUND NOW THAT HERM IS OUT OF HERE.

Comment by calichiefsfan74 — January 23, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

I think he’ll stick around. He’s not ready to retire and he’s under contract.

Comment by Jeff in VA — January 23, 2009 @ 8:59 pm

Peace out……….Let the celebration begin. WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Comment by Rob in SoCaL — January 23, 2009 @ 9:07 pm

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Comment by Rob in SoCaL — January 23, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

How sad is it that all of you are so happy to see a man get fired…, not that a change was not necessary… but I wonder how you would feel if the same type of celebration happened to you after you were fired from your jobs…

Just a different perspective…

Comment by hrivera — January 23, 2009 @ 10:41 pm

shut up he makes millions not thousands

Comment by chefs — January 23, 2009 @ 10:55 pm

Showing off your education “chefs”??? wow…

Comment by hrivera — January 23, 2009 @ 11:24 pm

I have to agree about Herm being “a good guy, person, means well….”, but, DAMN, look at the record. No person on the planet should be able to continue, nor has, after that miserable of a record. Forgive me for not buying into “what he has done for the team”. Rebuilding is difficult, but there are too many examples from this season alone to suggest it can be done fairly quickly. Not to mention the way in which we lost four or five games this season on coaching decisions.

As for applauding a person loosing their job, this isn’t a “normal” paying job. Herm probably doesn’t “need” to work ever again. Thankfully, Gunther left before the same happened to him. I appreciate what he did here, but it was time to go.

As for TG’s feelings, that will probably be dependent upon the fate of Chan Gailey. TG has nearly always said the right things, or at least the things that he was “supposed” to say, like supporting Herm. I disagree with his trade request, but considering the leaders at the time, who could argue. His attitude and enthusiasm totally changed once Gailey was able to open up the offense.

Pioli comes from a quality organization with an obvious history of success, not to mention the influence of his father-in-law. He will turn things around. Remember, we are at the bottom, there’s only one way to go.

Comment by Travis — January 24, 2009 @ 12:04 am

If I was paid 4 million to not work next year, you can celebrate my firing all you want.

To everyone who still thinks Herm was good & just needed one more year, his record speaks for itself. 4 last place finishes in the last 6 years, and 4 seasons of 10+ losses. Yep, he sure woulda won the SB if he only had one more year!

I’m still amazed that people think Herm has good character & integrity, blah, blah, blah.

I have documented Herm’s press conferences for the last 2 years, & every week he would say something that was not true (which is a lie to some people), make excuses & blame others for his own shortcomings.

I don’t know what kind of Bizarro World we are in, but where I come from, good, stand-up people with integrity & character don’t make excuses, they don’t blame others, & they don’t say things that are not true.

I never have heard the people who Herm has thrown under the bus ever defend Herm’s character. Gunther couldn’t wait to set the record straight.

I pity the fans of the next team he takes over.

Comment by JD — January 24, 2009 @ 12:07 am

hrivera “chefs” is a nickname for the Chiefs and has been for many years, maybe you need a little education, besides people need to have mercy in life, but there is no mercy in football, such as it is in the Red Death Society.

VLTC- Loved your Mother Theresa comment.

I used to be a Herm supporter, but things were getting way out of hand. We ended up playing in a spread offense, because the original offensive plan failed so badly. Playing the spread offense is unheard of in the NFL, and it is very hard to have a productive running game with it, it’s collegiate and kind of a joke to run at the NFL level. That leads me to my next point, we have to pick up either Mark Sanchez or Matt Stafford in the draft. It is well known that Thigpen is only comfortable using the spread offense. He did good for us, but we need to go back to a solid offense, plus he has accuracy problems. Besides Pioli is going to want to start with his own new handpicked QB like he did with Brady, and Thigpen is no Tom Brady. Hopefully we will do away with the Tampa 2 scheme as well, which I definitely think it is gone with the dissmisal of Herm.

RednGold4Life- what good is getting Crabtree if Thigpen throws it to Gonzalez 90% of the time, even when double and triple covered.

Sorry Herm, I did like you and thought you were the answer at one time, but the CHIEFS come first before any one player or coach, thus we had to put you out of commission.
Chief Tom,
member of the Red Death Society

Comment by Chief Tom — January 24, 2009 @ 12:25 am

Watch out Warpath! Goldzone has returned from exile. I have returned after saying I was taking the year off and basically finding other things to do on Sundays. I mentioned that I was done with the Chiefs until Herm was relieved of his duties. Being a first class individual never did qualify Herm to be an effective head coach. It doesn’t matter now because it is water under the bridge, but he should have been canned after the Indy playoff game when he would’nt pull an ineffective Trent Green in favor of a red hot Huard that may have allowed the Chiefs to win a game that was very winnable if you guys remember how cold the Colts were that day. But since it never got done we had to endure two of the most disgraceful seasons in ANY teams history! Now comes the REAL rebuilding with an energized fan base looking forward to next season! It will be nice to spend Sundays pulling for the Chiefs again! It’s just too bad it took two years for the Edwards Kool Aid to wear off!

Comment by Goldzone — January 24, 2009 @ 2:13 am

JD for the first time I think your trippin. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. No whackjob could ever make the mistake of making
Edwards their head coach in this league ever again….Actually on second thought Al Davis hates his fans enough to to one up us and give up a 3rd round pick for Mr. “get over it” Edwards……….Oh well Raiders fans aren’t people anyway. GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Rob in SoCaL — January 24, 2009 @ 6:51 am

Herm will never be a head coach in the NFL again. I still have a hard time understanding the loyalty by some of you towards Herm whose record was worse each year he was here. In his career he is 20 games UNDER 500 and that would be worse if he wasn’t handed decent teams when he signed on as head coach. I for one couldn’t be happier that he is gone although I do wish him all the best. My loyalties lie with the Chiefs and their fans and winning a Super Bowl. Anyone who can see us doing that with Herm is blind.

Comment by mark f. — January 24, 2009 @ 11:40 am

Well…
It’s about damn time we move in a different direction; The Business Decision took WAY too long to release Herm from the Chiefs. Herm – Nice guy whom finishes last. Perhaps we can finally secure someone with an aggressive approach on BOTH sides of the ball. Looking ahead to the Days of Glory from the Chiefs!!!

Marcus – In Colorado Springs

Comment by Marcus — January 24, 2009 @ 11:52 am

Prost!

Comment by Weezy — January 24, 2009 @ 12:43 pm

Hey Herm……..if your unhappy about getting canned, guess what……..”GET OVER IT”!!

Comment by Dennis — January 25, 2009 @ 2:31 am

I do agree that Herm is a good guy, and his intent was good. I know that Herm believes in the young talent that he brought in almost to the point that it became a weakness. I guess you can say that he over-believed in some of the no-names that he brought in. Some good things came of it, and he had a great draft last year, and we can repeat that if the front office plays their cards right and gets some more high picks. I know he can be a good coordinator, that has been proven..he belongs up in the booth, not on the sidelines. I hope he finds his niche because we know now that its not rebuilding a team to win..I guess we’ll see next year

Comment by The other Travis S. — January 25, 2009 @ 4:20 am

Chief Tom – IF… and thats a big IF.. the Chiefs stick with Thigpen and this spread offense, how could you go wrong with getting Michael Crabtree? The dude was the best reciever in the NCAA last year and guess what? He was on the team of the coach who has been dubbed the mastermind of the spread offense. It wouldnt even be a transition for him.

Thigpen threw to Tony too much I agree, but damn man Tony is insane and Tyler knew/knows it. Why wouldn’t he be your first look almost every down the guy has broken nearly ever record and is obviously a currently playing NFL Hall of Famer. Bowe still got over 1000 yards this year too.. they both did. That says alot about our current QB.

Crabtree/Bowe/Gonzalez.

Who the hell would disagree with that!? (This of course requires us to fill defensive needs through FA or from 2nd n 3rd round steals and another OT.)

Comment by RedNGold4LIFE — January 25, 2009 @ 12:28 pm

I agree with the other guy, get rid of the spread offense (the run game is piss poor), it will make our offense 1 dimensional for the defense. Get a franchise QB either Stafford or Sanchez. That’s a no lose situation to me, they are both going to be great QB’s, it’s just a matter of which one is there at the number 3 spot.
It is confusing on what they should do, there are so many things to fix.

Comment by Arrowhead — January 25, 2009 @ 4:46 pm

Wasting a 3rd pick on Sanchez would be stupid. He had 1 DECENT year and a good bowl game. We have too many other needs.. Pioli knows this and I would be shocked if we take a QB for our first pick.

Agreed about the piss poor running game of the spread, but all we need is wrinkles of it with a real NFL offense.. you can’t deny its effectiveness at times. 3rd downs are perfect for it.

Comment by RedNGold4LIFE — January 25, 2009 @ 6:05 pm

thank god he is out of here yes yes yes we can now get to the superbowl now superbowl champs 2010 here we come

Comment by michael diedrich — January 25, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

On ESPN they are saying that it will either be Todd Haley, or the Dolphins Defensive Coordinator (forgot his name), but both of them were under Bill Parcells so that’s what we need.

Comment by Chief Tom — January 25, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

thanks for clearing the “CHEFS” thing up for me chief tom.

Comment by chefs — January 25, 2009 @ 9:05 pm

Todd Haley

Thats All I Got To Say!!!!!!

Comment by Rob 32 Gomez — January 25, 2009 @ 11:04 pm

no problem fellow Chiefs brother chefs

Comment by Chief Tom — January 26, 2009 @ 12:00 am

To Warpath Editors-
Please do us all a favor and take the Herm news off of the site as well as last years game scores. The quicker we can get this past year into the history books and off of the front pages will be all the better. If someones wants to look up the scores they can do the history check by their own research! Let’s post next seasons games only and forget about the Herm years as fast as we can! Everyone knows he has been canned, so let’s pull some other stories onto the front pages and move on so that we can focus on next season! Thanks for a great site, but let’s turn the page!

Comment by Goldzone — January 27, 2009 @ 12:53 am

Ok so i just want to know what has Haley done to deem worthy to head coach a team?? Why him?? I dont want to hear hes a superbowl offensive co. Or he has a good offense. I want to know why as a coach he would be a great head coach? Is he a good talent evaluator?? Does he call the shots on 4th and 13 to win the superbowl?? Does he have the skills needed to oversee a whole football team?
Im in no way saying anything negative but i just want to know why such a love affair with him.
I would ask the same people who want Haley if Cowher wanted to be the chiefs coach would you still want Haley?
Again not saying i want or dont want Cowher just saying he is a proven coach with a superbowl ring.

Comment by GoogleyMoogley — January 28, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

I don’t want Cowher. He is a media freak and he is commentating right now for quick entry to the Hall. Not saying I wouldn’t do the same but still…

I like Haley cuz he is good under pressure and he has dealt with some media proclaimed “divas” at the wide receiver position…such as T.O. and Keyshawn Johnson, and Boldin. Did you not see the final drive of the championship game where Boldin was in his face for not being in the game and he still called the right plays to get them in the endzone…that’s the sh*t right there.

He also has fresh ideas that are hard to game plan for if you’re the opposing team. He isn’t conservative, and yes he does call the plays and he would still call them in KC.

He could deal with our current “diva” running back Larry Johnson in whatever fashion he so desires. I think Larry will be happy with a new coach and new game plan so he will stop whining, same with Gonzalez…I think with a coach like Haley and his reputation of passing Gonzo will be mighty pleased.

On top of that, free agents won’t be afraid to come to us because of our previous reputation as a crap team. We did show more signs of a good team than any other bad team out there so I think we will have a good off season free agent wise.

Also consider his playoff preparation. He managed to find a way to exploit defenses in certain ways that weren’t even considered in the regular season…running the ball? They have actually ran the ball more than they have passed it and they are the current leaders in the team rushing category in the postseason and they managed to still get Fitzgerald the single postseason record for yards…he is the man but still.

There is upsides to Haley that most people don’t realize…I hope I’m right cuz we need a spark here in KC. Pioli was the first, now lets keep it going.

Comment by Josh — January 29, 2009 @ 4:25 am

Go Chiefs!

Comment by Devon — January 29, 2009 @ 8:28 am

Thanks Josh for a good answer.
Im not saying i dont want Haley i guess i just dont know alot about him.
Yes i did see him and Boldin. Boldin went and sat down.
I too like the fresh ideas as well.

Sooo consider this.
We have not fired Chan yet. Chan ran a spread offense last year for Thiggy. Haley runs a very open spread ish offense as well.
We have J Charles would be a perfect back for a spread type offense.
Maybe thats why Chan isint gone. Maybe they listened and saw that the offense looked decent last year. And before everyone jumps down my throat.. we had NO defense. So there was alot of pressure to score every time we had the ball. I dont care who you are pressure leads to mistakes.
Now look at the ravens. The defense spots the offense points in key games. Makes the offense have to work alot less.

Comment by GoogleyMoogley — January 29, 2009 @ 4:36 pm

I do believe that is why Chan Gailey is still here. He made the adjustments as the OC to keep his job. At least that’s how I feel about the whole thing.

About the Charles thing…I’m still iffy on the whole thing. I still think LJ is sufficient, don’t get me wrong he has some off field issues BUT if he had played in every game I’m convinced he would have had a 1,000 yard season. I do believe though he is spectacular trade bait. Regardless, Charles and a draftee could run our backfield, with Kolby Smith as a serviceable backup if injury occurs (most likely will).

A few of my friends were chatting about a possible trade offer to get Cassell by giving them LJ and Croyle. Then getting a package deal including Haley and Boldin…I’m sorry but that just sounds beautiful.

And yes our defense on the front was pitiful, but our secondary shows promise. We need to revamp our line and linebackers…I think that’s it. Keep Derrick Johnson as starters and keep the rest for backups on linebackers. And then get a speed rusher on the opposite side of Hali, like Julius Peppers or Albert Haynesworth. Anything big name will give us some promise.

I’m excited to say the least…If you can’t tell already.

Comment by Josh — January 29, 2009 @ 10:56 pm