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	<title>Comments on: How the Cutler Trade Could Bury Kansas City</title>
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		<title>By: RedNGold4LIFE</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedNGold4LIFE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan I agree with most of your opinions, but as far as Denver goes I think they have a lot further way to go now than we do.  They &quot;should&quot; have a lot of talent on offense still even without Cutler, but the team is not the same without Cutler either.  This will be a new Denver and if none of McDaniels QBs can stay healthy then they are in a world of trouble.  The defense will be better ONLY if Brian Dawkins can be Brian Dawkins and not get injured.

Kansas City&#039;s secondary I think will blossom this year, providing we get just a little more pressure on the QB and with the changes we have made already this is a no brainer that it it will happen..  With that alone we had some decent interceptions last year, especially by Page who had 4, and Flowers with 2.  All were pretty damn impressive plays if you go back and watch them.  Flowers PICKED OFF FARVE TWICE in the same game, ran 1 back for a TD while flying right past him as he at the turf (wow that was awesome!!).  Some guys never pick off Farve their whole careers, granted A LOT of them have too :)

Pioli has definately not proven anything in terms of players he can draft.  As you said Nathan, Pioli was part of the &quot;system&quot; that New England bathes in, so who knows what he REALLY did there.  I&#039;m sure he can take credit for a few players, but who would ever know who they were?  I believe we have a very good &quot;experiment&quot; to play with for the next 2-3 years or so in TJ as Pioli actually admitted that he reminded him of a Richard Seymour that he claims NE built their defense around.  If he can be that player, then I think we as Chiefs fans can sit back and enjoy the show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan I agree with most of your opinions, but as far as Denver goes I think they have a lot further way to go now than we do.  They &#8220;should&#8221; have a lot of talent on offense still even without Cutler, but the team is not the same without Cutler either.  This will be a new Denver and if none of McDaniels QBs can stay healthy then they are in a world of trouble.  The defense will be better ONLY if Brian Dawkins can be Brian Dawkins and not get injured.</p>
<p>Kansas City&#8217;s secondary I think will blossom this year, providing we get just a little more pressure on the QB and with the changes we have made already this is a no brainer that it it will happen..  With that alone we had some decent interceptions last year, especially by Page who had 4, and Flowers with 2.  All were pretty damn impressive plays if you go back and watch them.  Flowers PICKED OFF FARVE TWICE in the same game, ran 1 back for a TD while flying right past him as he at the turf (wow that was awesome!!).  Some guys never pick off Farve their whole careers, granted A LOT of them have too <img src='http://www.chiefswarpath.com/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Pioli has definately not proven anything in terms of players he can draft.  As you said Nathan, Pioli was part of the &#8220;system&#8221; that New England bathes in, so who knows what he REALLY did there.  I&#8217;m sure he can take credit for a few players, but who would ever know who they were?  I believe we have a very good &#8220;experiment&#8221; to play with for the next 2-3 years or so in TJ as Pioli actually admitted that he reminded him of a Richard Seymour that he claims NE built their defense around.  If he can be that player, then I think we as Chiefs fans can sit back and enjoy the show!</p>
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		<title>By: longshot</title>
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		<dc:creator>longshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us also keep in mind that Matt Cassel May not be a &quot;franchise quarterback&quot; yes he is good and yes i think that he was worth the 2nd round pick, however he inherited a lamborghini when he took over for tom brady in NE and now he has to drive around in a beater that is being restored.. you get my drift here.. lets wait and see how the guy does with half of the weapons that new england had and an o-line that will have him looking over his shoulder before we label him a &quot;Franchise Quarterback&quot; and the savior of a city. furthermore if the chiefs somehow move larry johnson and thus remove the running threat how good will he be when teams arent stacking the box and forced to stop the run and they can sit back and defend the pass all day long..? 
bottomline there are a lot of question marks with cassel yet to be answered</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us also keep in mind that Matt Cassel May not be a &#8220;franchise quarterback&#8221; yes he is good and yes i think that he was worth the 2nd round pick, however he inherited a lamborghini when he took over for tom brady in NE and now he has to drive around in a beater that is being restored.. you get my drift here.. lets wait and see how the guy does with half of the weapons that new england had and an o-line that will have him looking over his shoulder before we label him a &#8220;Franchise Quarterback&#8221; and the savior of a city. furthermore if the chiefs somehow move larry johnson and thus remove the running threat how good will he be when teams arent stacking the box and forced to stop the run and they can sit back and defend the pass all day long..?<br />
bottomline there are a lot of question marks with cassel yet to be answered</p>
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		<title>By: meo04d</title>
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		<dc:creator>meo04d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uggghhh... I hate these posts.  The grass is always greener...How about if we went the opposite way and talked about how the chiefs only spent a second rounder and landed a franchise QB and that leaves all of our other picks to do as we please.  We then laugh at how much Chicago traded to land their franchise QB and we go along our day.  Or we talk about how long it took Denver to find a QB like Cutler and we talk about how much longer it will take them.  

I don&#039;t like that either...

The truth is...The Chiefs had the youngest team in the league last year.  They lost 8 GAMES by a TOUCHDOWN or less...8 GAMES!  Now, that does say that they were in each game and could not find a way to finish.  The pieces from last year that we have cut such as Edwards and Surtain were injured most of the time anyway.  Denver, on the other hand, out of the 8 games Denver lost, only two of them were by a touchdown or less.  That is with a kickass QB and a sorry Defense.  Note, that QB is gone to Chicago.  

Point is, KC is not as bad as you think.  They&#039;re very talented and just young.  However, they do have the central piece of the puzzle...QB.  Will the Cutler trade help Denver acquire talent...of course.  However, it took them a good long while to find a AB like Jay Cutler...my money is betting lightning doesn&#039;t strike for them so soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uggghhh&#8230; I hate these posts.  The grass is always greener&#8230;How about if we went the opposite way and talked about how the chiefs only spent a second rounder and landed a franchise QB and that leaves all of our other picks to do as we please.  We then laugh at how much Chicago traded to land their franchise QB and we go along our day.  Or we talk about how long it took Denver to find a QB like Cutler and we talk about how much longer it will take them.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like that either&#8230;</p>
<p>The truth is&#8230;The Chiefs had the youngest team in the league last year.  They lost 8 GAMES by a TOUCHDOWN or less&#8230;8 GAMES!  Now, that does say that they were in each game and could not find a way to finish.  The pieces from last year that we have cut such as Edwards and Surtain were injured most of the time anyway.  Denver, on the other hand, out of the 8 games Denver lost, only two of them were by a touchdown or less.  That is with a kickass QB and a sorry Defense.  Note, that QB is gone to Chicago.  </p>
<p>Point is, KC is not as bad as you think.  They&#8217;re very talented and just young.  However, they do have the central piece of the puzzle&#8230;QB.  Will the Cutler trade help Denver acquire talent&#8230;of course.  However, it took them a good long while to find a AB like Jay Cutler&#8230;my money is betting lightning doesn&#8217;t strike for them so soon.</p>
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		<title>By: mark f.</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark f.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the blink of a young girl&#039;s eye. I caught it nathan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the blink of a young girl&#8217;s eye. I caught it nathan.</p>
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		<title>By: nathanKent</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathanKent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of drafting, Pioli hasn&#039;t proven any more or less than McDaniels. There is no clear cut evidence that Pioli was the personnel guru (there&#039;s no evidence against it either, of course). Besides, New England&#039;s drafts haven&#039;t exactly been stellar. They&#039;ve been adequate at best, and sometimes they&#039;re downright awful. 

That&#039;s not a prediction of what I anticipate from Pioli, however. It&#039;s just an observation. I remain cautiously optimistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of drafting, Pioli hasn&#8217;t proven any more or less than McDaniels. There is no clear cut evidence that Pioli was the personnel guru (there&#8217;s no evidence against it either, of course). Besides, New England&#8217;s drafts haven&#8217;t exactly been stellar. They&#8217;ve been adequate at best, and sometimes they&#8217;re downright awful. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a prediction of what I anticipate from Pioli, however. It&#8217;s just an observation. I remain cautiously optimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and did i mention,  NO MORE &quot;21 POINTS, THATS ARENA LEAGUE FOOTBALL&quot; guy is GONE!!!

also, Mike Priefer is in Denver!!   (lol)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and did i mention,  NO MORE &#8220;21 POINTS, THATS ARENA LEAGUE FOOTBALL&#8221; guy is GONE!!!</p>
<p>also, Mike Priefer is in Denver!!   (lol)</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are several differences right now that you did not address. 

1. The difference (or saving grace, whichever you prefer) is in last year&#039;s draft we had dumb and dumber (carl and herm) running the show. This year we have pioli and haley. I have a lot more confidence in these 2 than the other 2.

2. Denver has no one eye (shanahan) anymore. McDaniels has yet to prove that he can find his own talent. He just played the ones that Pioli and Belicheck found in N.E.
Pioli has proven he can find talent.

3. Realistically, how much better can Denver&#039;s offense be with out the cry baby (cutler). And how much better will our offense be without the &quot;musical chairs&quot; quarterbacking this next year, as opposed to last year.

4. if i remember right we had 6 picks in the first 3 rounds last year, and that has yet to blossom as we expected. its a gamble on whether any draft pick will work out in the nfl, there is no guarantee that they will perform up to the hype and be stars. that goes for any team. i have more confidence in our front office. at least a ray of hope.


my point in all this is that both teams are &quot;starting over&quot; with new head coaches and staff, playbooks, etc.

I LIKE OUR CHANCES!!!!!

only time will tell.

But nice food for thought, Nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are several differences right now that you did not address. </p>
<p>1. The difference (or saving grace, whichever you prefer) is in last year&#8217;s draft we had dumb and dumber (carl and herm) running the show. This year we have pioli and haley. I have a lot more confidence in these 2 than the other 2.</p>
<p>2. Denver has no one eye (shanahan) anymore. McDaniels has yet to prove that he can find his own talent. He just played the ones that Pioli and Belicheck found in N.E.<br />
Pioli has proven he can find talent.</p>
<p>3. Realistically, how much better can Denver&#8217;s offense be with out the cry baby (cutler). And how much better will our offense be without the &#8220;musical chairs&#8221; quarterbacking this next year, as opposed to last year.</p>
<p>4. if i remember right we had 6 picks in the first 3 rounds last year, and that has yet to blossom as we expected. its a gamble on whether any draft pick will work out in the nfl, there is no guarantee that they will perform up to the hype and be stars. that goes for any team. i have more confidence in our front office. at least a ray of hope.</p>
<p>my point in all this is that both teams are &#8220;starting over&#8221; with new head coaches and staff, playbooks, etc.</p>
<p>I LIKE OUR CHANCES!!!!!</p>
<p>only time will tell.</p>
<p>But nice food for thought, Nathan</p>
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